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![]() Tuesday, January 20, 1998 Published at 17:26 GMT ![]() ![]() ![]() Talking Point ![]() Should governments control Internet encryption? Your reaction <% ballot="" ' Check nothing is broken broken = 0 if ballot = "" then broken = 1 end if set vt = Server.Createobject("mps.Vote") openresult = vt.Open("Vote", "sa", "") ' Created object? if IsObject(vt) = TRUE then ' Opened db? if openresult = True AND broken = 0 then ballotresult = vt.SetBallotName(ballot) ' read the vote votetotal=(vt.GetVoteCount(ballot, "yes")+vt.GetVoteCount(ballot, "no")) if votetotal <> 0 then ' there are votes in the database numberyes = vt.GetVoteCount(ballot, "yes") numberno = vt.GetVoteCount(ballot, "no") percentyes = Int((numberyes/votetotal)*100) percentno = 100 - percentyes ' fix graph so funny graph heights dont appear 'if percentyes = 0 then ' percentyes = 1 'end if 'if percentno = 0 then ' percentno = 1 'end if else ' summut went wrong frig it numberyes = 0 numberno = 0 percentyes = 50 percentno = 50 end if end if end if %> Votes so far:
I am a newsman who paid my price in torture chambers for my freedom.Yes,we should protect in every possible way our basic freedom of opinion. For that reason, I think the Net should be watched because it is used against those same
freedoms and, soon, at any moment, it will be used not only to help the
drug traffickers wash their money or sell their stuff.It will also be used by
terrorists to kill.No doubt about it, they'll find a way to turn the Net into
a dangerous virus.
There is such a lot of information about us and our private lives
stored and circulated in the various bank, credit
card, hotel, rail and other computers, which can be
accessed, that the notion of existing privacy seems
to be dented already. Why bother?
The government cannot control internet encryption, all the time they do, online business is destined to fail. we need strong encryption with no back doors.
It isn't just a privacy issue - if strong, private encryption is not available
then building a viable financial structure on the net isn't feasible: both for
digital cash and digital signatures rely on it.
There are two major flaws with the idea of regulation of
encryption. Firstly, regulation will only stop law-abiding
users from using encryption (also making them easy
prey for crimes such as credit card fraud and cellular
phone cloning); criminals and the paranoid will manage
to hide in some way.
Since E-mail and other electronic communication are replacing letter mail and
written communication, I think the new forms should merit at least as much
protection as the old. Where a communication passes between countries I think
it should be protected by the laws of both countries before either government
may tamper with it.
Governments find it almost impossible to regulate matters such as the fair
distribution of wealth, health care services etc.
A "simple" matter like the Internet, should be a 'piece of cake'!
Governments should not be given the authority to engage in tyranical
behavior.
If governments can open email, Whats next? Personal mail? Your home?
Automobile?
I am against controls on the development and use of the Internet. Much of the
reason for it's success is a lack of institutional restrictions, on the other
hand it is no longer a venue exclusively for technically adept and socially
responsible individuals, although it is unlikely that this would be addressed
by government. Yes, I hate junk e-mailers, and AOL.
The problem with designing flawed encryption allowing for government access is that those same flaws can be exploited to facilitate illegal decryption too.
Governments have no rights to do it. If Governments have the rights to do it,
it says we have no any private rights.
I have the feeling that one more time, a new constraint is to be
applied to all citizens in order to catch a few criminals. However I
suppose that mafia will find the means to continue (its their job) while we are
carefully monitored..
The governments should get there hands off the internet...
I think that messages sent across the internet should be private. If
governments are able to control how we communicate, what next? They'll be
trying to rule the country or something. I am strongly in favour of civil rights, but recognise the necessity
for tackling organised crime in all of its manifestations. Up to now
most people on this talking point have argued against controls, but
they are people who have a legitimate use for the Internet and
want to go about their business freely. Absolutely right, and very
strict controls need to answer the how, when and what questions
of its use. There has to be a balance between the Big Brother
state and ending the tyrany of the barstewards involved in
organised crime who - seen or unseen - do so much to harm the
rest of us.
There is a growing factor of too much government control.
Limit that factor and remain FREE!!
Freedom of speech plays a vital role in any "democratic" state... and besides,
quite reasonable encryption tools are readily available and provide quite
good security for e-mail and the like. Perhaps governments should be more worried
about the less rigorous border controls nowadays... it can't be all that
difficult to cross national borders with weapons or explosives.
For heaven's sake leave us at least one channel of communication without Big
Brother breathing down our necks!
Actually, the very fact that certain users encrypt is enough to arouse
suspicions and I am sure that the police (or whoever) can then proceed in
their
investigations by other methods.
At the worst, one could imagine a legal process involving an application to the
courts to require user X to hand over his virtual key where there are strong
grounds for suspicion of certain illegal activities (organised crime, child
pornography...). Failure to do so would then in itself be a reason for
prosecution.
Hands off our privacy! I do not see that controlling encryption will deter criminals to communicate,
they will find other ways, as they have always done in the past.
Would you send all your letters on postcards? Encryption is an envelope for
E-Mail and governments should have no access to our private communications.
Electronic databases mean our lives are already too easily scrutinised, just
read some of the horror stories from people who have had their credit ratings
blacklisted by 'infallible' technology. Data is power and the government, especially a
Labour government should protect personal privacy.
In what is becoming an increasingly regulated, complicated & conformist society the Internet finally offers the opportunity to return some basic & fundamental
freedoms to ordinary citizens - don't give it up !
Should governments control internet encryption?
Can they is the real question!
It doesn't matter who controls the encryption, there will always be a way
round it...
I am not convinced that any information obtained would remain confidential.
There is little evidence of ability to
prevent the disclosure of confidential information as things stand at present.
I think it's pointless trying to control
communication on the internet. The internet
is such a wild and untameable place that no
legislation can really affect it. As soon as
one encryption is broken, someone will write
another one.
Those who believe governments will only use key recovery to monitor criminals
are incredibly naive. Strong encryption without the possibility of monitoring
(e.g. PGP 2.6.2) is readily available for free on sites around the world, and
if it's made illegal, criminals will use it anyway. The only ones who will end
up being monitored are law-abiding citizens.
It is not for Governments, particularly ours with its traditional obsession
for
hiding as much as possible about its actions, to seek to control the flow of
information. Not everyone is happy to have Big Brother poking about in their
mailbox and criminality, whether real or potential, is no excuse for snooping.
Criminal use of the Internet must be quantitatively qualified before any justification can be made to censor or control use of this medium. If the Governments reasoning were applied to the use of the telephone, then every telephone conversation would be monitored IN CASE it were about plans to do something illegal. This is an absurd reason to control this open medium and an invalid one to invade my privacy even though I might have nothing to hide.
Strong Encryption redresses the balance towards privacy form a situation where electronic messages could be routinely and mechanically scanned without the proper interpretation. The risk of strong encryption being used for illegal or immoral pursuits would not be reduced by passing laws. The genie is already well out of the bottle and it would be a massive undertaken to spot any unauthorised use.
I believe that government control of this medium would be a very bad mistake. Government should embrace this kind of technology, it has the potential to deliver the actual 'voice of the people', to enable it to make better decisions on our behalf. Control and censorship surrounds us in every other media form. Let the internet be free ; a true forum of the people and for the people. The controls upon activities of criminals of one country which affect people of another would be near impossible to police. Let us not allow this potential threat, fractional as it is, to limit the enormous benefits which this form of global personal communication has to offer.
Everyone cries foul at the suggestion of such controls. However, the government must have the ability to deal with potential criminal activity on the Internet. This doesn't mean total control over what is accessed, so what is the problem?
Encryption is essential for those wanting to give e.g. credit card numbers over the net. Why should the government (British, European or USA) want to read those? Criminal message senders probably already have access to strong encryption, or else send "My cat has brown hair"-type messages, which mean nothing to anyone else.
We (the public) do have access to sophisticated encryption, I write my own. I would never dream of sending a letter in a see through envelope. Public Key Encryption CANNOT be controlled by anyone.
What is wrong is that not enough people use it. Crime CANNOT be committed on the internet. Crime can only be committed in the REAL world, and that is the place to look for it. Nobody can control encryption that is a red herring. What is wrong is that not enough people know how to use it correctly. That especially applies to companies who have the most to gain from using it.
The technology is freely available, and government control over the areas of concern - national security, law enforcement - would be impossible. The only effect of legislation will be to raise the costs of day-to-day business, impose barriers to entry for technological innovation, and inhibit electronic commerce. The horse has bolted, leave the stable door alone.
I view others reading my email as an infringement of my personal freedom. After all, what is the difference between reading my mail and bugging my home or tapping my telephone line. Should the government also be considering installing hidden microphones in public places, who knows what they might uncover? Of course not, but this is what reading private email amounts to. Is it naive to believe that email is not already being read by security services? Perhaps we should be talking about how to control the government at it's agencies?
Seemingly rationale arguments will be used to get the wedge of control inserted. Unreasonable black and white choices will be proposed forcing a denial of motherhood, or, in this case, control of crime, in supporting the contrary position. BUT this should make you all the more careful. Beware.China today. Us tomorrow.
The Internet has been a phenomenom because of no government interference. In fact, the regulations should come from the agency issuing the Internet section.
Governments should not control encryption- the keys should be long enough to be un-crackable. They should have no access to codes that they can switch on even in cases of emergency - there will be too many emergencies. I believe all UK international traffic is monitored and keywords are used to decide on which traffic is analysed further.
The Internet can be used for a variety of criminal activities. For terrorist activities there is a genuine need to be able to use the Internet to track their activities. For pedophiles I would rather see the pictures made more difficult to find first, starting with the banning and removal of clearly illegal newsgroups from ISPs in this country. When it is so easy to find pictures people may be tempted to look, thereby increasing the problem and those who already look at the pictures can find them easily and fairly anonymously. There is the obvious danger, though, that peoples privacy will be seriously invaded so we need to be kept informed about just what is being done and tracked. This information needs to be freely available and distributed.
The French government has a stupid and paranoid attitude to strong encryption This has the ironic effect of discouraging electronic commerce of all sorts, while encryption software is freely and easily obtainable from the US.This proves that government measures are in any case ineffective against the determined criminal, and as usual penalises the innocent. Governments are neither competent or qualified to intervene in this domain, including the British government, so unless they want to look silly, they should abstain.
It will be impossible to enforce government regulation of encryption without monitoring every single e-mail and file attach that passes over the internet, and one can think of many ways to defeat such monitoring. Only an idiot would try to legislate in such circumstances.
A locked door will only keep out an honest man. If criminals wish to use encryption, they will use the strongest encryption available to them, Anyone wishing to exercise their right to privacy will become a criminal under this kind of system. How is Jack Straw proposing to check every computer in the land for a copy of PGP?
Why worry about encryption? I'm sure there are many other things that could be pursued. Lets face it, if a criminal wants to obscure information, they are going to do it anyway. I would much prefer to know that no one has the right to read my mail except the intended recipient.
I think that the governments should try to
stop minors accesing sites which they aren`t supposed to.
Somebody has to have an overview, but its a matter of ensuring that the
somebody is qualified, entirely trustworthy with the information. Is that a
government agency?
The thought of the government intercepting
private messages sends shivers down my spine...this is England we're talking
about...not some arm of the old USSR regieme...should the government have easy
access to our telephone lines too? Why not let them scan every single mailed
letter before it arrives at its destination as well? Then we'd all be
safe...not.
Legitimate users of encryption would suffer
from
decreased security and those using it for criminal activities would not be
affected.
It would also be prohibitevly expensive to effectively police such a policy.
We need more protection against goverment
misuse of its existing powers and secrecy.
"Those who are innocent have nothing to fear" - the motto of every tinpot
dictatorship in history. I wouldn't trust ANY government with the gift of my
privacy.
It has been stated that if you have nothing
to hide then there is no reason why you
should need to encrypt your communications.
However, how many people would send their
private thoughts through the post on the
back of a postcard, let alone such details
as credit card numbers. When you send a post-
card only post office workers can read it,
however an email sent in plaintext can be
read by anyone in the world.
To actually police the use of encryption, the authorities would need to
perform
regular searches of all computer systems to look for illegal software. They
don't have the resources to check the gigabytes and gigabytes of computer data
out there, even if we wanted to give them the power to invade our privacy so
blatantly.
Given the technical literacy of most government
departments it will take a massive waste of money and effort. Let them get on with it; the sooner they realise the futility of
what they are proposing the sooner we can start to think about more effective
approaches to the problem (of which there are many).
Absolutely not. As a software developer, I must say that encryption is a very
dangerous tool in the hands of governments.
If governments exercise the right to employ encryption technology in everyday
use, we are very much closer to a single state totalitarian regime than it is
possible to imagine.
I have worked on government projects and I know this to be true.
Criminals WILL use encryption anyway, regardless of the law on encryption
(that's why they are criminals).
Government restriction of encryption threatens my security. It makes very
little difference to national security.
A super secret criminal or terrorist group will
most likely develop and use their own
network without having to piggy-back
public channels, albeit this is the
nature of camouflage. The government should not be allowed to
control Internet Encryption because it
sets a precedent which enables it to
further intrude into the very private
lives of any citizen it suspects or
merely chooses. It's an exchange of
freedom for safety implemented by
tighter government control. This is a
case in which the public is being duped
into believing Internet Encryption is a major
problem when in fact it isn't.
The Internet is fast become a haven for the crank pots, sexual devients,
cyber-criminals and subversive organisations. We need a degree of control.
Would we tolerate its limitless freedom if the media was radio, TV or paper?
I do not believe the governments should have any control of the internet
whatsoever. This is possibly the last frontier that we as humans have as a
totally free environment.
I feel governments should have the right to intercept
messages and decrypt them to deter criminals.
I don't like the word 'control' in your statement I feel that we should not
hold
any bars against technological advancements that can be made available via the
Internet.
This would be over defeating the whole concept of the Internet ' Information
for the masses'.
I believe the level of crime and pornography actively
distributed on the internet is a very small portion of the daily traffic and
as
such is grossly over reported.
A qualified yes.
If the same procedure as used with phone
tapping is applied - ie. police would
have to seek a magistrates permission
before intercepting an individual's
e-mail.
Government control of encryption will only serve to stifle the growth of
on-line commerce - authentification and security rely on credible encryption.
I have no doubt that certain organisations would gain from being able to
encrypt messages, but one has to ask where would government intervention end?
One of the main reasons for the explosion in Internet usage is anonymity and
lack of intervention from 'authorities'. If anything could lead to the death of the Internet, this could be it.
My privacy is my privilege - it's a matter of principle. I have (but never use
- it's merely for peace of mind) 128-bit encryption software and shall
continue
to upgrade when available.
I feel that to pass control of encryption to governments is effectively
passing
control of the internet itself to governments.
However, I believe that governments should be able to obtain the right to
intercept and decipher messages / data / email / websites,
after proving to a judge that there is reasonable risk to national security,
following much the same process as is required priot
to establishing phone taps, etc.
The government has no right to intervene,
with the private life of individuals, but
has by all means the right to control the
activities of illegal and criminal
organization.
The problem is to distinguish between the
two.
The recent increase in the number of internet vandals and hackers can send
shivers down the spines!! To check the growth of fraudulent activites, such as
spreading viruses and hacking, the government should take the right steps and
NOW! If the internet is just left to grow on its own, where is its guidance
going to come from??
I believe that the governments first priority should be to try to regulate the
amount of pornographic material that can be accessed by anyone with an
Internet connection. If this material was by some means encrypted I would
feel comfortable with my children accessing the net, and at the same time
still allowing others the freedom of choice.
Michael Fields concern about his children seeing
pornographic material could be solved by using
Net Nanny, Cyber Sitter or one of the many
censor programs available. I think the Internet
Service Providers should provide this sort of
software when you connect to their service.
Let goverment have the codes to read what
they need. No one is stopping the free
speech. Only criminals need worry about
what is being sent.
I think that freedom of creation is very important for innovation. Encryption
is probably the first feature of the internet that can be abused by criminals,
but there are many more! We would have to control all of them and that would
mean to halt development of the internet. Similar to encryption, so far all
inventions of great power have been abused for negative things. Atomic Energy
for Atomic Bombs. We have to find other solutions than banning because we HAVE
to keep innovating and evolve.
Internet media
are merely alternative means of expressing what is already done. What is the
difference between conversing face to face or via the Internet? What is the
difference between a handwritten letter and E-mail? All these methods of
communication can be disguised or encrypted in some way. I would ask
therefore
people to explain the difference between sending an encrypted E-mail or
printing out and posting by hand? I attribute such proposals to technophobic
paranoia and sheer ignorance. On the libertarian grounds of privacy such
regressive proposals must be opposed fervently. The European Commission has
already acknowledged the fundamental right of European Citizens to such!
privacy.
As a new communication media Internet should be moderated by governments.
It is not aceptable that everybody can do whatever they want on the Internet.
Governments are only just realising the genie that they let out of the bottle
when they allowed the Internet to disperse information. The ability to make
public any information is a powerful tool against the
complacency of a political party in power. They should not know be permitted
to have influence over that ability.
If you ask questions about internet policy to an on-line audience, how do you
expect anything other than a biased answer. You might just as well ask if
people want to be taxed.
It's not a question of asking a biased audience as Mark King suggests; there's
nothing 'different' about people who are on-line, they just happen to be
on-line. McLuhan said 'it's the medium not the message', and the government
seems to have remembered this wonderful old bit of sixties wisdom, and think
that they can control it.
Jack Straw even contemplating the fact of taking control of encription just
shows he knows nothing about the subject.
If you allow a "back door" to encryption than anybody will be able to "hack"
it, meaning there would be no point.
The best know encryption program PGP was invented by a guy in his home (at
first) and this is still very hard to crack, if the government think they are
going to be able to stop coders and anybody with an interest could produce
their own. This will just mean that resources are going to be spent on programers to try
and break codes all the time, by the time they have the crime will be over
anyway.
He should spend the money tracking down the criminals at source instead of,
yet
again, banding all people who use the internet as criminals!
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