{"id":20480,"date":"2018-09-20T13:16:22","date_gmt":"2018-09-20T17:16:22","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/philip.greenspun.com\/blog\/?p=20480"},"modified":"2018-10-26T10:50:10","modified_gmt":"2018-10-26T14:50:10","slug":"75-percent-chance-of-career-failure-considered-in-a-positive-light","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/philip.greenspun.com\/blog\/2018\/09\/20\/75-percent-chance-of-career-failure-considered-in-a-positive-light\/","title":{"rendered":"75 percent chance of career failure considered in a positive light"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I was chatting with a successful physicist the other day. I said that reading <a href=\"http:\/\/philip.greenspun.com\/blog\/2018\/06\/14\/losing-the-nobel-prize-on-careers-in-science\/\"><em>Losing the Nobel Prize<\/em><\/a> made me realize what a risky career choice science was. He scoffed at my timidity. &#8220;If you get into a top graduate school, you&#8217;re practically guaranteed a post-doc.&#8221; (i.e., a\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/cheekyscientist.com\/why-a-postdoctoral-researcher-position-pays-less-than-a-librarian-salary\/\">$52,116 per year job after 5 years<\/a>; roughly at age 35 if the PhD program is started at 24 and it takes 6 years to earn the doctorate) What about after that? &#8220;You&#8217;d have a 1 in 4 chance of getting an assistant professorship.&#8221; Once on the tenure track, he considered actually earning tenure to be straightforward.<\/p>\n<p>If we define &#8220;success&#8221; in science as a long-term job as a scientist, he was saying that the chance of failure was a minimum of 75 percent (maybe closer to 90 percent if we consider the probabilities of not getting into a great graduate school, not getting a post-doc, and not getting tenure once on the &#8220;tenure track&#8221;). In his opinion this was only a minor detraction from the appeal of a career in science.<\/p>\n<p>Related:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/lifesciencenetwork11.connectedcommunity.org\/blogs\/leah-cannon\/2016\/09\/15\/how-many-phd-graduates-become-professors\">How Many PhD Graduates Become Professors?<\/a> (from 2016: &#8220;life science PhD graduates in the US have only a 16% chance of finding a tenure track position&#8221;; but how many people on &#8220;tenure track&#8221; actually do get that lifetime guaranteed job?)<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/philip.greenspun.com\/careers\/women-in-science\">&#8220;Women in Science&#8221;<\/a> (&#8220;This article explores this fourth possible explanation for the dearth of women in science: They found better jobs.&#8221;)<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I was chatting with a successful physicist the other day. I said that reading Losing the Nobel Prize made me realize what a risky career choice science was. 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