{"id":24424,"date":"2019-09-25T12:55:04","date_gmt":"2019-09-25T16:55:04","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/philip.greenspun.com\/blog\/?p=24424"},"modified":"2019-09-25T14:47:12","modified_gmt":"2019-09-25T18:47:12","slug":"european-perspective-on-jeffrey-epstein-brexit-immigration-and-donald-trump","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/philip.greenspun.com\/blog\/2019\/09\/25\/european-perspective-on-jeffrey-epstein-brexit-immigration-and-donald-trump\/","title":{"rendered":"European perspective on Jeffrey Epstein, Brexit, Immigration, and Donald Trump"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I spent three weeks with 471 fellow &#8220;explorers&#8221; through the Northwest Passage. Most were German, Scandinavian, or from the UK. Only 22 of us were American. Out of 150 staff and crew, only 1 was American (most were from the Philippines). Every day the ship provided us with a printed summary of news, organized by country. Thus, it turned out to be a great way to get the European perspective on current events.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[What was the racial composition of the passengers? The same as in American communities where residents hang Black Lives Matters signs and say that their top priority is racial diversity: 90+ percent white with the remainder being Asian.]<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">News about Jeffrey Epstein bewildered the Scandinavians and Germans. &#8220;If she wants to work as a real prostitute paying taxes she needs to wait until she is 18,&#8221; said a Dane. &#8220;But there is nothing illegal about a 15-year-old having a sugar daddy buying her whatever she wants. A 15- or 16-year-old is considered an adult in sexual matters.&#8221; Germans noted that the age of consent in their country was 14 and that prostitution, though not a career to aspire to, was legal.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">A retired English lawyer doubted that Epstein had ever abused anyone: &#8220;the women kept going back.&#8221; She was scornful of the actresses who&#8217;d had sex with Harvey Weinstein and of the #MeToo movement in general. &#8220;I was the only female lawyer in my firm and then the only partner,&#8221; she noted. &#8220;I could have claimed harassment or discrimination dozens of times.&#8221; (Proof that criminal defense lawyers are right in wanting older women on juries in what used to be called &#8220;date rape&#8221; cases?) <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The UK passengers were drawn mostly from the London\/Southeast area and many had worked in multinational enterprises. Thus, the majority had voted to Remain, but there were quite a few Leavers. Nobody seemed to have any affection for the EU as an institution: &#8220;I voted to Remain,&#8221; said one woman, &#8220;but now that I&#8217;ve seen how the EU has treated us, if there were another election today I would vote to Leave.&#8221; The business experts noted that the EU had begun as a trade and customs union, but had morphed into an attempt to forge a single political entity. They considered that effort a failure, but the Remainers wanted to try to reform the EU from within (since reforming big centralized government has been so successful everywhere else?).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Just as with Americans, claiming to dislike Donald Trump is a mark of sophistication and intelligence. Hardly anyone wanted to admit that there was anything to like about our dictator. However, the folks who&#8217;d done business internationally said that Trump was doing exactly the right thing with respect to China and talked about how they&#8217;d been unable to get access to the market there without opening a factory and transferring technology. Others said that they thought Trump&#8217;s trade policies would be bad for Europe, but were in Americans&#8217; best interest.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The Europeans were at least as hostile to low-skill migration as Donald Trump. They wanted a wall on Europe&#8217;s southern border. They wanted their welfare state, already stingier than ours (see <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Hartz_concept\">Hartz IV<\/a>, for example), further curtailed so that Europe would stop being a magnet for those who are helpless in a modern economy.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The Europeans who said that they didn&#8217;t like Trump also shared his fondness for low tax rates as a way of fostering economic growth. A Swedish business executive whose company has a U.S. division said that he thought U.S. taxes were currently higher than Sweden&#8217;s. He pointed out that Sweden has no estate (death) tax. What about their higher headline personal income tax rate? &#8220;Nobody pays that,&#8221; he said. &#8220;If you&#8217;re a corporate executive you will find a way to turn the income into a capital gain, taxed at 30 percent.&#8221; A Scandinavian who was generally in favor of big government earned most of his income through an Estonian corporation. As <a href=\"https:\/\/philip.greenspun.com\/blog\/2016\/08\/01\/estonia-tough-campaign-stop-for-bernie-sanders\/\">Estonia is tax free<\/a>, he won&#8217;t owe any taxes on this income until he needs to get the money out and spend it, which could be 50 years from now.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">It was interesting to be with people who don&#8217;t share our assumptions, but now I&#8217;m back in the land of GroupThink. 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