{"id":32393,"date":"2021-05-04T14:16:00","date_gmt":"2021-05-04T18:16:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/philip.greenspun.com\/blog\/?p=32393"},"modified":"2021-05-05T13:51:53","modified_gmt":"2021-05-05T17:51:53","slug":"when-is-having-sex-with-the-boss-a-good-idea-melinda-and-mackenzie","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/philip.greenspun.com\/blog\/2021\/05\/04\/when-is-having-sex-with-the-boss-a-good-idea-melinda-and-mackenzie\/","title":{"rendered":"When is having sex with the boss a good idea? (Melinda and MacKenzie)"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>We are informed that sex between a high-income senior worker at a company and a lower-income junior worker is bad. Yet MacKenzie Scott, then a secretary (<a href=\"https:\/\/www.townandcountrymag.com\/society\/money-and-power\/a26345596\/mackenzie-bezos-facts\/\">&#8220;administrative assistant&#8221;<\/a>) at D.E. Shaw, turned sex with Jeff Bezos, a vice-president at the firm, into a multi-$billion fortune. And recently we&#8217;ve learned that <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Melinda_Gates\">Melinda Gates<\/a>, who had sex with the founder\/CEO at her employer (Microsoft), will <a href=\"https:\/\/www.cnbc.com\/2021\/05\/04\/next-comes-the-divorce-settlement-breakdown-of-bill-gates-wealth.html\">soon join the ranks of strong independent female billionaires<\/a>. Nobody is saying that it was a mistake for these women to have sex with their respective bosses. Nor is anyone criticizing the bosses for having sex with subordinates and then paying them $billions.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>(What if the boss is already married and only &#8220;high income&#8221; rather than rich? Sex with the boss can still be far more lucrative than continuing to work, depending on the state (see <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.realworlddivorce.com\/\">Real World Divorce<\/a><\/em> for each state&#8217;s child support formula and this <a href=\"http:\/\/philip.greenspun.com\/blog\/2015\/04\/09\/litigious-minds-think-alike-divorce-litigators-react-to-the-ellen-pao-v-kleiner-perkins-lawsuit\/\">calculation of how much better Ellen Pao would have done by having sex with her boss compared to suing Kleiner Perkins<\/a>).)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>How are people supposed to distinguish between bad-sex-at-the-office and good-sex-at-the-office?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>An immigrant friend has been writing about Melinda Gates pulling the ripcord. A sampling:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p>[14-year-old] read Bill Gates&#8217; divorce tweet and reacted: I so hate it how Americans always describe these things in this annoying sugary way: &#8220;we no longer believe we can grow together as a couple&#8221; or &#8220;we&#8217;re no longer a perfect match.&#8221; A Russian woman would have said directly: &#8220;He got boring&#8221; or &#8220;He is crazy, I don&#8217;t want to deal with him anymore&#8221; or &#8220;he is running out of money&#8221; or &#8220;screw him, I am out of here.&#8221; In fact, I don&#8217;t think any European would talk like Americans do. They wouldn&#8217;t probably even say anything because who cares?<\/p><p>I am anticipating a firehose of stories: &#8220;Melinda Gates is the real founder of Microsoft, while Bill with the rest of the white men took all the credit&#8221;, &#8220;Melinda breaks the next layer of the glass ceiling in philanthropy&#8221;, &#8220;The rising tide of female billionaires: here is how divorce can empower you too&#8221;.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>From a U.S.-born friend:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p>So I heard Bill Gates is having a massive parasite removed. The surgical process should cost about 65 billion dollars.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>The <a href=\"https:\/\/www.scribd.com\/document\/506179624\/Gates-PetitionforDissolution#from_embed\">actual complaint for divorce (&#8220;petition&#8221; in Washington State) filed by Melinda Gates<\/a>:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"aligncenter size-large is-resized\"><a href=\"https:\/\/philip.greenspun.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/image-4.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/philip.greenspun.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/image-4.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-32394\" width=\"343\" height=\"63\" srcset=\"https:\/\/philip.greenspun.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/image-4.png 1061w, https:\/\/philip.greenspun.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/image-4-1024x189.png 1024w, https:\/\/philip.greenspun.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/image-4-300x55.png 300w, https:\/\/philip.greenspun.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/image-4-768x142.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 343px) 100vw, 343px\" \/><\/a><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"aligncenter size-large is-resized\"><a href=\"https:\/\/philip.greenspun.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/image-5.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/philip.greenspun.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/image-5.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-32395\" width=\"361\" height=\"322\" srcset=\"https:\/\/philip.greenspun.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/image-5.png 1167w, https:\/\/philip.greenspun.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/image-5-1024x916.png 1024w, https:\/\/philip.greenspun.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/image-5-300x268.png 300w, https:\/\/philip.greenspun.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/image-5-768x687.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 361px) 100vw, 361px\" \/><\/a><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>Related:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.inc.com\/minda-zetlin\/bill-gates-melinda-fatherhood-parenting-housework-unpaid-labor.html\">Bill Gates Just Taught a Big Lesson to Every Husband in American &#8216;Moment of Lift,&#8217;<\/a> Melinda Gates explains <strong>how the couple make their partnership work<\/strong>. (<em>Inc.<\/em>, <strong>January 2020<\/strong>): &#8220;&#8230; having both partners share fairly in household work and emotional labor is a very worthwhile goal.&#8221; (i.e., the spouse who identifies as a &#8220;man&#8221; should be responsible for earning 100% of the money and also 50% (as determined by the spouse who identifies as a &#8220;woman\/plaintiff&#8221;) of the household work). Bill Gates apparently adopted a craven posture of submission, but his obeisance wasn&#8217;t sufficient to appease the person who ultimately became his plaintiff.<\/li><li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.inc.com\/justin-bariso\/bill-melinda-gates-know-how-to-work-as-a-team-heres-how-they-do-it.html\">&#8220;Bill and Melinda Gates Shared a Profound Secret to Their Success. It&#8217;s a Lesson in Emotional IntelligenceThe Gateses&#8217; ability to deal with disagreements reveals major lessons for teams of all sizes.&#8221;<\/a> (<em>Inc.<\/em>, August 2020): &#8220;They exercise empathy. &#8230; They give valuable feedback. &#8230; They begin with respect. <strong>In a world where women are afforded much less opportunity than men<\/strong>, Melinda says she is thankful that she and her husband have achieved true equality&#8211;both in their marriage and work relationship.&#8221; (<strong>but how many people who identify as &#8220;men&#8221; had the opportunity to have sex with Jeff Bezos or Bill Gates and harvest $billions via divorce?<\/strong>)<\/li><li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.businessinsider.com\/bill-and-melinda-gates-on-their-best-pieces-of-marriage-advice-2018-2\">&#8220;Bill and Melinda Gates reveal the secret to their marriage success and the topics that are off limits on date night&#8221;<\/a> (<em>Business Insider<\/em>, February 2018): By their own admission it&#8217;s an &#8216;intense&#8217; setup, but it &#8216;works well.&#8217; &#8230; Melinda said that even though they have disagreements, they always maintain a &#8216;united front.&#8217; &#8230; &#8220;Working together as well as raising a family together, there\u2019s a certain intensity to that. But we\u2019re very lucky because we mostly see things the same way, the goals are very much the same,&#8221; he said, adding that the couple are now 25 years into learning how to listen to each other. &#8220;It works well,&#8221; he said.<\/li><\/ul>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>We are informed that sex between a high-income senior worker at a company and a lower-income junior worker is bad. 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