{"id":33679,"date":"2021-08-22T13:14:00","date_gmt":"2021-08-22T17:14:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/philip.greenspun.com\/blog\/?p=33679"},"modified":"2021-08-22T14:26:10","modified_gmt":"2021-08-22T18:26:10","slug":"internment-camps-for-the-unvaccinated","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/philip.greenspun.com\/blog\/2021\/08\/22\/internment-camps-for-the-unvaccinated\/","title":{"rendered":"Internment camps for the unvaccinated?"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Nobody loved my previous modest proposal: <a href=\"https:\/\/philip.greenspun.com\/blog\/2021\/08\/10\/euthanize-the-unvaccinated\/\" data-type=\"post\" data-id=\"33468\">Euthanize the unvaccinated?<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Here&#8217;s another idea for keeping the righteous safe from those who deny #Science&#8230; internment camps for the unvaccinated. <em><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Korematsu_v._United_States\">Korematsu v. United States<\/a><\/em> affirmed FDR&#8217;s decision to send Japanese-Americans into camps. World War II was a bad situation, but Japanese-Americans were a minor and speculative threat. Nonetheless, the Supreme Court held that the Constitution did not apply #BecauseEmergency.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Consider that COVID-19, at least according to our media, has already killed far more Americans than died in World War II (and the death of an 82-year-old with diabetes and cancer is actually more tragic than the death of a healthy 18-year-old soldier). So the emergency is far more severe right now than whatever we had concerning us in 1942 when Roosevelt issued <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Executive_Order_9066\">Executive Order 9066<\/a>. This is certainly no time to let purported Constitutional rights interfere with public health.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">We are also informed that <a href=\"https:\/\/philip.greenspun.com\/blog\/2021\/07\/08\/coronavirus-kills-the-vaccinated-in-the-uk-but-not-in-the-u-s\/\" data-type=\"post\" data-id=\"33225\">the unvaccinated are 99.2 percent responsible for spreading coronaplague and for COVID-19 deaths<\/a>. The unvaccinated are a clear and present danger to themselves and others.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Isn&#8217;t the logical next step placing the unvaccinated into internment camps for their own protection? <a href=\"https:\/\/journals.plos.org\/plosbiology\/article?id=10.1371\/journal.pbio.1002198\">&#8220;Imperfect Vaccination Can Enhance the Transmission of Highly Virulent Pathogens&#8221;<\/a> (PLOS, 2015):<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p>Could some vaccines drive the evolution of more virulent pathogens? Conventional wisdom is that natural selection will remove highly lethal pathogens if host death greatly reduces transmission. Vaccines that keep hosts alive but still allow transmission could thus allow very virulent strains to circulate in a population. Here we show experimentally that immunization of chickens against Marek&#8217;s disease virus enhances the fitness of more virulent strains, making it possible for hyperpathogenic strains to transmit. Immunity elicited by direct vaccination or by maternal vaccination prolongs host survival but does not prevent infection, viral replication or transmission, thus extending the infectious periods of strains otherwise too lethal to persist. Our data show that anti-disease vaccines that do not prevent transmission can create conditions that promote the emergence of pathogen strains that cause more severe disease in unvaccinated hosts.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The only way to keep the unvaccinated safe from the super-COVID that we&#8217;re breeding by vaccinating those who were never at significant risk (with an imperfect vaccine) is to place the unvaccinated into camps where they can be isolated from the vaccinated population.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Readers: What do you think of this idea? And could Andrew Cuomo be repurposed to run one of the camps? He has experience ordering the infected into nursing homes. (But if he hadn&#8217;t done that, the hospital situation could have been worse; see <a href=\"https:\/\/philip.greenspun.com\/blog\/2021\/01\/17\/our-heros-hospital-is-full-but-not-with-patients-who-should-be-there\/\" data-type=\"post\" data-id=\"30910\">Our hero\u2019s hospital is full (but not with patients who should be there)<\/a>.) Maybe Cuomo could be tasked with rounding up the unvaccinated and ordering them into the Protection Camps. If that&#8217;s too big a task for one person, Cuomo could be in charge of outreach to young unvaccinated women.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Loosely related&#8230; a fixer-upper in Bodie, California, in the same dry Eastern Sierra environment as <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Manzanar\">Manzanar<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"aligncenter size-full is-resized\"><a href=\"https:\/\/philip.greenspun.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/bodie-12.4.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/philip.greenspun.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/bodie-12.4.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-33680\" width=\"652\" height=\"653\" srcset=\"https:\/\/philip.greenspun.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/bodie-12.4.jpg 1051w, https:\/\/philip.greenspun.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/bodie-12.4-1021x1024.jpg 1021w, https:\/\/philip.greenspun.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/bodie-12.4-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/philip.greenspun.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/bodie-12.4-768x770.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 652px) 100vw, 652px\" \/><\/a><\/figure><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Nobody loved my previous modest proposal: Euthanize the unvaccinated? 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