{"id":3533,"date":"2011-03-28T00:12:41","date_gmt":"2011-03-28T04:12:41","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/philip.greenspun.com\/blog\/?p=3533"},"modified":"2011-03-28T00:12:41","modified_gmt":"2011-03-28T04:12:41","slug":"how-did-the-new-york-times-manage-to-spend-40-million-on-its-pay-wall","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/philip.greenspun.com\/blog\/2011\/03\/28\/how-did-the-new-york-times-manage-to-spend-40-million-on-its-pay-wall\/","title":{"rendered":"How did the New York Times manage to spend $40 million on its pay wall?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Aside from wondering who will pay more than the cost of a Wall Street Journal subscription in order to subscribe to the New York Times, my biggest question right now is how the NY Times spent a reported $40-50 million writing the code (<a href=\"http:\/\/www.bloomberg.com\/news\/2011-01-28\/new-york-times-fixes-paywall-glitches-to-balance-free-vs-paid-on-the-web.html\">Bloomberg<\/a>; other sources are consistent). Google was financed with $25 million. The New York Times already had a credit card processing system for selling home delivery. It already had a database management system for keeping track of Web site registrants. What did they spend the $40-50 million on? A monster database server to keep track of which readers downloaded how many articles? They should already have been tracking some of that for ad targeting. In any case, a rack of database servers shouldn&#8217;t cost $40 million.<\/p>\n<p>What am I missing?<\/p>\n<p>[I built a pay wall back in 1995 for the MIT Press, restricting access to some of their journals, e.g., <em>Cell<\/em>, to individual subscribers and people whose IP addresses indicated that they were at institutions with site-wide subscriptions. I can&#8217;t remember exactly what I charged the Press, but it was only a few days of work and I think the invoice worked out to approximately $40 million less than $40 million.]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Aside from wondering who will pay more than the cost of a Wall Street Journal subscription in order to subscribe to the New York Times, my biggest question [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_feature_clip_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-3533","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v28.3 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>How did the New York Times manage to spend $40 million on its pay wall? 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