{"id":36747,"date":"2022-03-11T15:25:44","date_gmt":"2022-03-11T20:25:44","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/philip.greenspun.com\/blog\/?p=36747"},"modified":"2022-03-11T15:31:05","modified_gmt":"2022-03-11T20:31:05","slug":"democrats-are-willing-to-fight-anyone-except-a-foreign-invader","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/philip.greenspun.com\/blog\/2022\/03\/11\/democrats-are-willing-to-fight-anyone-except-a-foreign-invader\/","title":{"rendered":"Democrats are willing to fight anyone except a foreign invader?"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Democrats frequently promise to &#8220;fight&#8221; when seeking election. Here&#8217;s the party&#8217;s thought leader, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.independent.co.uk\/news\/world\/americas\/us-politics\/aoc-ruth-bader-ginsburg-rbg-supreme-court-us-election-2020-latest-b491681.html\">&#8220;&#8216;We can and must <strong>fight<\/strong>&#8216;: AOC urges Americans to &#8216;get to work&#8217; to defeat Donald Trump following Ruth Bader Ginsburg&#8217;s death&#8221;<\/a> (<em>Independent <\/em>2020). Nancy&#8217;s Pelosi&#8217;s 2010 <a href=\"https:\/\/pelosi.house.gov\/news\/press-releases\/pelosi-statement-on-president-obamas-economic-speech-in-ohio\">statement on President Obama&#8217;s Economic Speech<\/a> says Democrats are &#8220;<strong>fighting<\/strong>&#8221; for the middle class. The most excellent of current Democrats, as evidenced by his\/her\/zir\/their elevation to the Presidency: \u201cI want to make sure we\u2019re going to <strong>fight like hell<\/strong> by investing in America first,\u201d said Biden. (<a href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2020\/12\/02\/opinion\/biden-interview-mcconnell-china-iran.html\">NYT<\/a>, December 2020) Biden&#8217;s <a href=\"https:\/\/www.whitehouse.gov\/briefing-room\/speeches-remarks\/2021\/01\/20\/inaugural-address-by-president-joseph-r-biden-jr\/\">inaugural address<\/a>: &#8220;I will <strong>fight <\/strong>as hard for those who did not support me as for those who did.&#8221; Biden <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2021\/04\/29\/us\/politics\/joe-biden-speech-transcript.html\">in April 2021<\/a>: &#8220;the climate crisis is not our <strong>fight <\/strong>alone. It\u2019s a global <strong>fight<\/strong>.&#8221; The godlike <a href=\"https:\/\/www.usatoday.com\/story\/news\/politics\/elections\/2018\/09\/07\/president-barack-obamas-speech-transcript-slamming-trump\/1225554002\/\">Obama in 2018<\/a>: &#8220;You can make it better. Better&#8217;s always worth <strong>fighting <\/strong>for.&#8221; <a href=\"https:\/\/obamawhitehouse.archives.gov\/the-press-office\/remarks-president-american-automotive-industry-33009\">Obama in 2009<\/a>: &#8220;I will <strong>fight <\/strong>for you. &#8230; I got my start <strong>fighting <\/strong>for working families in the shadows of a shuttered steel plant.&#8221; Hillary Clinton&#8217;s <a href=\"https:\/\/www.cnn.com\/2016\/11\/09\/politics\/hillary-clinton-concession-speech\/index.html\">concession speech<\/a>: &#8220;I have, as Tim said, spent my entire adult life <strong>fighting <\/strong>for what I believe in. &#8230; please never stop believing that <strong>fighting <\/strong>for what\u2019s right is worth it.&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">A <a href=\"https:\/\/poll.qu.edu\/poll-release?releaseid=3838\">Quinnipiac University poll<\/a>, however, found that there <em>was <\/em>one thing Democrats did not want to fight against: a military invasion.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p>As the world witnesses what is happening to Ukraine, Americans were asked what they would do if they were in the same position as Ukrainians are now: stay and fight or leave the country? A majority (55 percent) say they would stay and fight, while 38 percent say they would leave the country. Republicans say 68 &#8211; 25 percent and independents say 57 &#8211; 36 percent they would stay and fight, while <strong>Democrats say 52 &#8211; 40 percent they would leave the country<\/strong>.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Here&#8217;s more granular data (from the above URL, click <a href=\"https:\/\/poll.qu.edu\/images\/polling\/us\/us03072022_ujca44.pdf\">&#8220;download as PDF&#8221;<\/a>):<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"aligncenter size-full is-resized\"><a href=\"https:\/\/philip.greenspun.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/03\/image-30.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/philip.greenspun.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/03\/image-30.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-36749\" width=\"679\" height=\"360\" srcset=\"https:\/\/philip.greenspun.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/03\/image-30.png 1158w, https:\/\/philip.greenspun.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/03\/image-30-1024x543.png 1024w, https:\/\/philip.greenspun.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/03\/image-30-300x159.png 300w, https:\/\/philip.greenspun.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/03\/image-30-768x407.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 679px) 100vw, 679px\" \/><\/a><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">White men were the group most likely to say that they were willing to fight, at 75 percent. We&#8217;re informed that Americans who identify as &#8220;women&#8221; are generally strong and independent, but, in the event of an invasion, only 40 percent say that they&#8217;d be willing to fight. Americans identifying as &#8220;Hispanic&#8221; were actually slightly more likely than whites to be willing to fight while Americans who identify as &#8220;Black&#8221; already had one foot over the border (only 38 percent would be willing to stay and fight, the lowest percentage of any demographic group).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Although most apparently won&#8217;t be fighting, Americans who identify as &#8220;white women&#8221; are the ones who are truly suffering from what is happening in Ukraine, with 65 percent saying that they&#8217;re feeling anxious:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"aligncenter size-full is-resized\"><a href=\"https:\/\/philip.greenspun.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/03\/image-31.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/philip.greenspun.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/03\/image-31.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-36750\" width=\"687\" height=\"388\" srcset=\"https:\/\/philip.greenspun.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/03\/image-31.png 1029w, https:\/\/philip.greenspun.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/03\/image-31-1024x578.png 1024w, https:\/\/philip.greenspun.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/03\/image-31-300x169.png 300w, https:\/\/philip.greenspun.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/03\/image-31-768x434.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 687px) 100vw, 687px\" \/><\/a><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">When we combine decades of political rhetoric with the poll results, is it fair to say that Democrats are enthusiastic about any fight except one involving a foreign army that is trying to take over the U.S.?<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Democrats frequently promise to &#8220;fight&#8221; when seeking election. 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