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From Zoran Lazarevic:<\/P>
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Two hundred years in a history of a nation is a short time to change human <\/FONT>behavior without force. For one example, think that slavery was abolished <\/FONT>in the U.S. in 1865, but the first black generation that grew in freedom <\/FONT>and equality was born in 1970s.<\/FONT><\/P>
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Compare today Serbs living a couple of miles away: across the river Danube <\/FONT>which marked the border between the Austro-Hungarian empire (north) and <\/FONT>the Ottoman empire (south). In the north, they live in neatly painted <\/FONT>houses lined along geometrically straight roads, behind tall walls keeping <\/FONT>the privacy of their property. Villages just south of Danube are <\/FONT>hectically built around worn-out curvy roads, having short transparent <\/FONT>fences displaying property in slight disarray. The north prides itself <\/FONT>with culinary craft and the taste for fine arts from Austria and Hungary. <\/FONT>The south takes pride in warriorship and macho attitude, and jokes about <\/FONT>its own widespread bribery.<\/FONT><\/P>
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Serbia proper was liberated from the (Turkish) Ottoman Empire in the early <\/FONT>1800s, and united with the north in 1918.  <\/FONT>There is absolutely no question, that if separated, the two regions would <\/FONT>have very <\/FONT>different economies. Just like there are vast differences between other <\/FONT>ex-Yugoslavia states. And that is all after a century of common life, <\/FONT>mostly under communism which tried to kill out (pun intended) all <\/FONT>differences in religion and nationality.<\/FONT><\/P><\/FONT><\/BLOCKQUOTE>
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From Fazal Majid:<\/P>
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You could blame Lazare Carnot (d. 1823) for fathering Sadi Carnot (d. 1832), the inventor of thermodynamics, and thus leading to global warming…<\/FONT> <\/P><\/BLOCKQUOTE><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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