{"id":9223,"date":"2015-10-21T12:29:24","date_gmt":"2015-10-21T16:29:24","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/philip.greenspun.com\/blog\/?p=9223"},"modified":"2015-10-21T12:29:24","modified_gmt":"2015-10-21T16:29:24","slug":"when-and-why-did-it-become-necessary-to-pay-americans-to-have-children","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/philip.greenspun.com\/blog\/2015\/10\/21\/when-and-why-did-it-become-necessary-to-pay-americans-to-have-children\/","title":{"rendered":"When and why did it become necessary to pay Americans to have children?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Here&#8217;s something Hillary Clinton said in <a href=\"http:\/\/philip.greenspun.com\/blog\/2015\/10\/13\/did-anything-interesting-happen-in-the-democratic-presidential-debate\/\">the October 13, 2015 Democratic Presidential debate<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>I remember as a young mother, you know, having a baby wake up who was sick and I\u2019m supposed to be in court, because I was practicing law. I know what it\u2019s like. And I think we need to recognize the incredible challenges that so many parents face, particularly working moms. (Clinton)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>All of the Democrats agreed that Americans should be compensated for\u00a0the burden of parenthood, e.g., with &#8220;family and parental leave to all of our families.&#8221; (Sanders; see also <a href=\"http:\/\/philip.greenspun.com\/blog\/2015\/06\/29\/paid-maternity-leave-employers-or-taxpayers-should-pay\/\">this posting on who should pay for said leave<\/a>) And given the array of subsidies for parents already in place it seems that there is political consensus around the idea of paying Americans to reproduce.<\/p>\n<p>My question for today is when and why this became necessary. At the time of the nation&#8217;s birth parents did not get any federal tax credits for having children. There was no income tax (the <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Sixteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution\">Sixteenth Amendment<\/a> was passed in 1913). Parents also had to educate children themselves or pay a private school (<a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/History_of_education_in_the_United_States#Growth_of_public_schools\">Wikipedia <\/a>says that it wasn&#8217;t until 1870 that &#8220;all states had free elementary schools.&#8221;). Real incomes were much lower than today. There were no disposable diapers, dishwashers, or washing machines. Yet &#8220;the average woman had over seven livebirths in 1800&#8221; (<a href=\"http:\/\/www.nber.org\/papers\/h0056\">NBER<\/a>). Suppose that five of those children survived through age 18. Is it truly the case that going to work in an air-conditioned office in 2015 and coming home to meet two children who have returned from their government-provided K-12 class and after-school program is actually &#8220;an incredible challenge&#8221; compared to doing home-based work while dealing with five children circa 1800?<\/p>\n<p>[Separately, the candidates who showed up to the debate were apparently all in agreement that the way to alleviate the &#8220;incredible challenge&#8221; of dealing with a couple of kids is to pay mothers to stay home for three months following a child&#8217;s birth. Does that make sense? What about the remaining 17.75 years of supposedly &#8220;incredible challenge&#8221;? If I sit on a Carnival cruise ship for three months doing nothing am I then ready to face an &#8220;incredible challenge&#8221; for 17.75 years? As noted toward the end of <a href=\"https:\/\/philip.greenspun.com\/blog\/2015\/06\/29\/paid-maternity-leave-employers-or-taxpayers-should-pay\/\">my maternity leave posting<\/a>, it seems as though it would\u00a0be better to take all of the benefits given to parents (except for K-12 schooling) and load them into the 0-5 period. But even then I am not sure why extra benefits during the first three months will make all the difference.]<\/p>\n<p>What do readers think? Compared to the days in which Americans were having kids without being paid, we have disposable diapers, a river of inexpensive imported clothing and shoes, home appliances, electric lights, take-out food on almost everyone&#8217;s way home from work, taxpayer-funded babysitting from age 5-18 (a.k.a. &#8220;K-12&#8221;), mostly taxpayer-funded babysitting from age 18-22 (a.k.a. &#8220;kollege&#8221;). Why is it that American parents bellyache about how tough it is and how they need to be subsidized by childless Americans?<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Here&#8217;s something Hillary Clinton said in the October 13, 2015 Democratic Presidential debate: I remember as a young mother, you know, having a baby wake up who was [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-9223","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.2 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>When and why did it become necessary to pay Americans to have children? 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