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on Early Retirement
Very interesting. Most of my happiness comes from accomplishing goals (creating software products is very satisfying) or from interacting with my spouse, children, extended family and co-workers. I can imagine doing all these things in my free time if retired. I do build software on my own 'just for the heck of it'. And incidentally, thanks for all the free software engineering stuff, I can't read enough (even on my own time). W

-- W Chadwick, December 13, 2006
Phil, this is a great article and one that hits the heart. I left a certain famous search company after 5 years of employment with a lot of wealth and haven't been working since. I think there needs to be more written on this subject of 'now what?!' and basically support for some of us young (im 36) retirees who have lost a bit of ambition and direction after leaving the rat race. Anyway, after reading your article, i dont feel as guilty anymore splurging on a thing or two (namely justifying buying another car), but more importanly to focus on new things and not lose confidence that you'll have the motivation to be working hard again one day. I also never knew that being wealthy has its stigmas...ie alienation from certain friends and certain family, etc. You really have to be creative in this situation. Keep the ideas and updates on this subject coming...

-- A Guy, December 19, 2006
I really like your list of how rich families preserve their wealth down to many generations; especially the suggestion on buying a huge life insurance policy and getting monthly annuity payments from it, set for life! According to this site, it is also not advised to take out a lump sum distribution from a 401k because:
*Starting from 2006, the highest one time lump sum payment that a 401k retirement saver (between 62 to 65) can receive is $175,000. This limit is lowered for younger people.
* Starting from 2008, the assumptions (such as interest rate, life expectancy & rates of return on investment) that we used will change from the 30 year Treasury bond rate to the corporate bond interest rates. Since corporate bonds have higher risk than treasury bonds, their interest rates and yields are consequently higher. Therefore, the lump sum payments that you receive will be even lower. The only disadvantage of getting monthly annuity payments for the rest of your life is if the life insurance corporation goes bankrupt, you could lose your monthly payments. However, the Pension Benefit Guaranty Corporation (PBGC) will step in and compensate you for the lost annuity payments (usually much lower). But all in all, the life insurance policy suggestion is the best to preserve wealth down to many generations!

-- James Bartela, February 1, 2007
Dismissing all non-profits because they exist for the benefit of the employees is just a little cynical. When I stopped working in the corporate world (MSFT) I started working for a non-profit to educate myself and figure out if I wanted to do it long term, and have discovered a wealth of viable causes, and committed people who really are contributing to making the world (sometimes one individual at a time) a better place for the rest of us to live. Sometimes it takes a group of people with different skills to create change, whether it be locally by clearing the trails in a local park, or building a house for others, or globally, thru education and information. However, when it comes to volunteering, be prepared to be clear about what you are offering and be willing to show up in a committed way, showing up once or twice for a couple hours probably won't be beneficial to anyone. (altho at YES! magazine, we have successfully used a seminar format to pick the brains of people, in a consulting format).

-- Audrey Watson, March 5, 2007
From 2001-2004 I was a CEO of a public software company and after a major turnaround, we sold it, and I made enough to "comfortably" retire in my 40's.

Since then, I have had both the same joys and frustrations that you mention in your article. I have enjoyed working out more, reading, traveling all over the world, time with friends and family.

Yet, like most ambitious people, I keep asking myself, "Is there somethhing more?" "Am I really done with my career?" etc.

Retiring in your 30's, 40's, 50's or 60's, we will all have to come face to face with the reality that we are all so much more than our jobs, careers, status symbols captured and enjoyed.

I don't have my final answer. I am still struggling through, "Get another CEO Gig" or "Fully pursue all my other passions in life".

Craig

-- Craig Brennan, March 16, 2007

I'm getting ready to retire fairly early- 53- not through having made a killing in the stock market or working 60-80 hours a week or being in a fabulous Internet startup, but by simply living below my means, maxing out my 403bk contributions, and adding to a seperate brokerage account when I could.

I found a good broker/money manager who has actively managed my account and averaged about 12%/year after expenses. Over the last few years he's guided me in moving from higher volitility investment to lower volitility, as well as some tax sheltered investments, and I'm in a position now where I can count on keeping up the same income level I had pre-retirement, along with the growth necessary for inflation, as well as keeping a cushion against the inevitible recessions.

There are three kinds of "money managers" out there. Most are salemen for insurance companies who will stuff you into low-yield annuities and pcoket large commissions. A lot are drones who will sell you what they're told to sell by their employers. But there is a small subset who make their money and their reputation doing wealth preservation for reirees and people who have inherited wealth. If you can find one who's interested in taking on someone who doesn't yet have a fortune, that can be a good way to go.

-- Michael Edelman, May 2, 2007

If you do want to volunteer your time; organise a conference! Find something you're passionate about (free software, gardening...) and see if there's a related grass-roots conference in your area (for example the "Yet Another Perl Conference"s, the various "Open Source Developers' Conference"s etc). If so, volunteer to help with the next conference; if not, create one. It's a great way to spend time with people, encourage the growth of your field of interest and increase your personal fame within it. It also comes with a specific due date, so you can walk away at the end if you don't want to do it again.

-- Jacinta Richardson, November 1, 2007
Wonderful article Philip,

Here are some ideas (many similar to yours) that have worked for me to retire at 51.

[1] Move to a country where you are richer (I moved from the UK to the USA) Other suggestions would be: Tunisia or Morocco.

[2] Learn something new that's HARD. (I took flying lessons at 45 and I am now a private pilot) Other suggestions would be: play piano, learn chess, get an MA or Phd.

[3] Be creative. I draw and sculpt. Other suggestions would be: paint, garden, design stuff

[4] Realize that love and sex gets better the older you are. in your 20s your inexperienced, in your 30s your making babies and money, in your forties your getting divorced, but in your 50s your relaxed and enjoying life.

[5] Teach young people your skills and passions. You will both learn from each other.

[6] Keep buying popular music. Don't just listen to the hits of your youth but embrace current trends and you will not turn into an old foggie with a bad haircut and dreadful clothes. My hero whom did this perfectly was John Peel BBC DJ.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Peel

JUST HAVE FUN AND LIVE FOR EACH DAY.

Simon Holland Wisconsin USA

-- Simon Holland, June 28, 2008

Thanks for the "food for thought" . I have lived within my means and worked a goverment job -for 23 years paying union and pension dues. My pension will be (well under the recommended 70 percent of my $70,000 per year gross income) at 53 percent , wih no debt.

The human brain needs refreshing , new stimulation to be healthy; dong the same old job decade -after-decade tends to rot the brain and dry up the soul. My employer seems ill equipted to provide a renewing, refreshing, stimulating workplace. I am getting out asap at 53 years old, whatever the world brings it will have to be better than the stale, unmotivated, retired-on-your-feet condition of many long term goverment employees.

-- Peter James, October 28, 2008

Great information. Sadly, I now know that I will have no more motivation in retirement, than I do now (which is little). I do still look forward to no longer going to a job I no longer like, even a little bit. My last day is 12-22-2008 @ age 50.

I will take many of your suggestions to heart.

-- Anita Alexander, November 11, 2008

While I am not ready for retirement yet, I found much of use in this article. I was inspired to start a Gratitude Journal on my blog. Feel free to join in on my Thankful Thursdays, starting on 1/15/09. http://www.akalranch.com/2009/01/thankful-thursday/

-- Simrat Khalsa, January 13, 2009
I too have not found any good time management material until recently. There is one lecture I found that is actually useful and goes beyond anything else I've seen. It is the Time Management lecture given by Randy Pausch the 'Last Lecture' guy who died of pancreatic cancer recently. The time management lecture was not his last lecture, but a separate one he gave. It is sad to think how critical time management was for a person who was dying, but I think he was using these time management skills all the time. Here is a link to that lecture: http://www.cs.virginia.edu/~robins/Randy/

-- Jelly Bean, March 28, 2009
I retired at 32. I'm now 56. Of all the "things" that I've done, or junk I've bought and disposed of over the years, the most rewarding thing in my life has been my Buddhist practice. And it hasn't been a walk in the park.

-- Kevin Jenkins, December 10, 2010
I have to disagree with much of what you say about non-profits, or at least state that it does not apply to the ones I'm familiar with. For the record, I've worked in the corporate world, a government agency, and am currently working in a non-profit.

"Non-profit organizations exist to provide their staff with great jobs and the fun of making decisions and spending money."

Wow, that totally does not apply to the non-profits I know. Maybe if you're talking about some cushy art museum, but certainly not your run-of-the-mill non-profit or charity that actually *does* something. My observation is that the non-profits with the biggest budgets seem to be those with the suckiest missions. The non-profits and charities that actually do something good for people always seem to be the most desperately under-funded. Probably because rich people like to give money to organizations in comfortable parts of town that they don't feel awkward visiting.

"They are not especially interested in efficiency or accomplishment. If you've come from the commercial world, in which McDonald's must be ruthlessly efficient for fear of being destroyed by Burger King, working with or in the typical non-profit organization will likely drive you to insanity."

Again this is totally false. I work every bit as hard as I did at my corporate jobs, and many of my colleagues work even harder. With fewer resources and support. Sure I've known some slackers at my non-profit, but those people have all been laid off by now. We have to be ruthlessly efficient because we have lots of work to do and very few resources to do it with. Fewer all the time, because donors don't like to give money for operating expenses (see below) and we always seem to be losing people but the job never gets scaled back. We're always scrambling to find ways to squeeze a little more out of the resources we do have.

Regarding accomplishment, non-profits exist to accomplish things, in particular things that are not profitable. Non-profits *have* to accomplish things so that they can point to them when they ask for more money to continue their mission. Most people I know who work at non-profits would just go get a cushy corporate job if they didn't care about the things their organization was trying to accomplish. Maybe the problem is with the particular non-profits you've been exposed to.

"If you believe in their mission, however, it doesn't make sense to write them a check."

Oh my gosh this is so false! Non-profits *desperately* need people to write checks to them, especially for operating expenses! When people *do* write big checks, these donations often come with restrictions or are attached to some project that will have the donor's own name emblazoned on it in large letters. This is often a building project (see your comments about Harvard). Donors love to have buildings or pieces of buildings with their names on them, or one-off projects that prominently say "Sponsored by DONOR", but they don't seem to care about paying the utilities or replacing old equipment or paying the staff.

The problem is that these ego-boosting building projects are unsustainable. The place I work is saddled with debt because we did a large building project ten years ago. It has donors' names all over it, but it's dragging us down. If those donors had given us unencumbered funds, or put money in our endowment, we'd be in a lot better shape.

I don't know how to sum this up, other than to say I've worked every bit as hard at my nonprofit job as at my corporate ones because I'm passionate about the organization I work for and its mission. Also because I know my work contributes to something I believe in rather than lining the pockets of some rich guy who will get to retire early while I'll probably be slaving away until I die. Sorry about that last comment, but reading about rich people who get to retire early brings out my inner socialist.

-- geoffrey jost, April 26, 2011

I enjoyed reading your column and I like some of your ideas. I would think in this difficult economic climate, it is a challenge for retirees to manage their lifestyle into their 80's. As a young retiree at 50 years old, my family and friends looked at me with surprise as they expect me to work at least up to 60 years old. Since I have lost my drive to work in the corporate world, I decided to volunteer in non profit organizations, read avidly, blog actively, join a bible study group, travel overseas once or twice a year and spend the rest of my time reviewing my investments. I have developed my own benchmark for happiness which I reviewed on a yearly basis and improve on areas where I have been lacking. Although I could say I am doing quite well so far, my greatest challenge is to manage my time, money and talents wisely. I pray that with God's grace, I will become more creative in developing new hobbies and even more discerning in my investments and my business ventures.

-- Sandy Ling, May 20, 2011
I'm preparing myself (physically & mentally) to leave the corporate world and become full time homemaker. I browsed the internet looking for some valuable 'advice' on how to face reality with early retirement and your article came up among others on google page. I am quitting my job as a CEO of a small investment mgt. company at age 43 (am serving 3 months resignation notice fr 6/3/2011) after the job responsibilities became too taxing & stressful for me to endure. Also, the job has taken away my ability to perform my other duties as wife and mother to 4 children well. Nevertheless, the prospect of being left with no 'office work' to do from 9-5 after 21 years is still quite unimaginable for me...after reading your article; it helps to put certain perspectives in place. 1st, I have to get my priorities right!. Family first, personal second. I welcome more advice and words of wisdom - maybe from those who retired early & still have school-going children to manage themselves

-- Junaida A.Jalal, July 4, 2011
This article really goes in depth on many areas effecting early retirees but one area I think could possibly be added is to learn self-sufficent skills. I personally think anyone retiring without a huge retirement fund should learn how to repair and/or build a home, fix their cars, grow their own food, start a business, etc.

These skills have come in handy for my early retirement and saved me a nice bit of money. Since your probably going to have much more time during retirement you can spend some of it upgrading or learning some very practical and money saving skills.

-- John Alfered, April 30, 2012

Hi,

An interesting post you've written.

I think it's a bit disrespectful to say that non-profit workers are under-skilled and over-eager for pay. I worked in an non-profit and I know that I was working harder than most of the people I know in the private sector and getting paid less. There were constant demands on my time and I had to be able to deal with a wide variety of people and changing circumstances on a regular basis. Working in education or with the under-served is never easy. When I worked in the corporate world, I enjoyed endless air-conditioning (yes, these silly things can be an issue), a computer that ALWAYS worked, free coffee, and other perks. I don't want to seem inane by stating these small perks, but what I'm getting at is that life in the corporate world is just easier because it's more comfortable on many levels. Not having to walk 20- 30 minutes to your job site from the parking lot (which you had to pay for) with a load of materials, is very nice. In short, in the non-profit world, I had a world of goals and objectives to reach, but had fewer resources to reach them with. :)

I'm sorry that your relationship with non-profits has been negative. I can't say that mine was entirely positive. Being underpaid for endless amounts of work is never a fun experience. But put that aside, it was the lack of coherence, follow through, and transparency on the part of some of the management that was difficult to deal with.

Best, M

-- madina da, August 16, 2012

charitable foundations and organizations that are supposed to work for the public benefit, but in fact provide jobs and luxurious vacations ("board meetings") for members of your family for decades to come; the Enron executives were into these. Supposedly it is illegal and the family foundation ought to recruit employees on the open market, but in practice people are able to say "the only person we could find to review grant applications at our family foundation was our cousin Margaret at $100,000 per year" (reduce estate taxes by 100 percent)

Shameless?

-- madina da, August 16, 2012

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