“Trump hosted Holocaust denier at Mar-a-Lago estate during visit with Kanye West, a week after announcing 2024 run” (CNN, today):
Former President Donald Trump hosted White nationalist and Holocaust denier Nick Fuentes and rapper Kanye West at his Mar-a-Lago estate this week, demonstrating his continued willingness to associate with figures who have well-publicized antisemitic views as he embarks on another White House run.
West, who has legally changed his name to Ye, posted a video Thursday on Twitter in which he claimed that Trump “is really impressed with Fuentes,” who has repeatedly made antisemitic and racist comments as chronicled by the Anti-Defamation League.
(Why isn’t it forbidden deadnaming to refer to Ye as “Kanye West”?)
I had to visit Wikipedia to figure out who Nick Fuentes was, i.e., a young Mexican-American who has already been unpersoned by nearly all (Jewish-controlled?) media. Readers: Had you heard about Nick Fuentes before this week?
Here are some typical tweets on the subject of Trump’s dinner table:
I’m not sure that I love the evolution of Jewish victimhood over the past 75 years. In 1948, we fought against the regular militaries of Egypt, Syria, Jordan, Iraq, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia, and Yemen. Today our enemy is an individual 24-year-old incel. If we extrapolate out another 10 years, is it reasonable to predict that all Jews worldwide can be taken out by a pet rabbit and we need all of the goyim to rally around us and protect us from that rabbit?
Separately, if indeed it is true that Nick Fuentes is a Holocaust skeptic, why isn’t it reasonable for a 24-year-old to question the Holocaust? Much of what he has been exposed to in U.S. media during his lifetime has proved to be lies. Why is it obvious that on this one subject the New York Times happens to be telling the truth? (Note that the Holocaust was not considered an important subject by the NYT in the 1940s.)
Finally, what is the evidence that Fuentes hates Jews for being Jewish. Maybe he hates the Democrat political program and knows that the majority of secular American Jews have adopted this program as their replacement religion. Is Fuentes on record as saying that he hates Jewish conservatives?
Update: If the pool at Mar-A-Lago were renamed “Wannsee” we could say that a Mexican-American and a Black poet chaired the Second Wannsee Conference.
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I think he’s a volcel, not an incel.
Wikipedia: “Fuentes identifies as an incel (or “involuntary celibate”), although some of his supporters have criticized him for being a “voluntary celibate” after he admitted that he kissed a girl while he was in high school.”
If he’s been deplatformed everywhere, isn’t he on track to have a low income? In our polygamous society, that’s usually a passport to incelhood.
The passport to incelhood is not low income – a lot of Silly Valley incels habe quite decent incomes.
The biology of sexual attraction doesn’t care about money, it mostly looks at behavioral patterns matching that of an alpha chimp.
It was not “us” but the Israelis who fought in 1948. The Israelis today have way more important things to worry about than Fuentes — like getting blown up at a bus stop. So I doubt they are paying attention to what Nuremberg Law Jews think about anything.
Well, not soft American Jews like me obviously! But we are informed that white supremacists criticize Jews globally and therefore we Jews should be able to take credit for global Jewish achievements (maybe not Sam Bankman-Fried in the Bahamas, though).
I had heard of Fuentes but the few things I read about him told me that I didn’t want to read any more from the young little prick. The problem with Trump, as always, is that everything he does is completely transactional and he hangs around and pals around and hires people on the basis of what they’re going to do for him – and he goes on gut feelings, doesn’t read much, and also doesn’t comprehend very much. It’s gotten him into a lot of trouble because that’s the kind of jerk he’s always been – for decades. I’m glad he’s taking it on the chin for meeting with the little shit. It just goes to demonstrate that nothing has changed – you can walk into Mar A Lago, give him some song and dance spiel, he’s looking for votes and a deal, and then if it backfires he’ll just say he never knew who you were, you’re a loser, you’re a total failure, he made you and then you abandoned him, etc., etc.
Can’t get rid of him fast enough.
I also thought he should stay the hell away from Kanye West back when he was Kanye West. He’s a loose cannon too. There is no kind of weirdo Trump won’t hang around. He’s a casino guy at the bottom of it, a circus ringleader, and not a very good one. All Presidents should stay away from ties with celebrities. The Democrats do it because they manipulate the culture through Hollywood, but Republicans should kick them all to the curb.
Predictibly, Trump does the “he’s crazy” 180 and and preemptively uninvites Ye from any future meetings at Mar-a-Lago (unless he wants to meet with a “seriously troubled” man.) Their relationship, I take it, has taken a turn for the worse.
“Trump calls Kanye West ‘seriously troubled man, who just happens to be black’”
“Right back at ya, mah brotha,” says Ye. < That didn't happen.
https://news.yahoo.com/trump-calls-kanye-west-seriously-145710194.html
> Why is it obvious that on this one subject the New York Times happens to be telling the truth?
That’s a lot of hate for the NYT. You make it sound like if they say the Holocaust happened, that’s strong evidence it didn’t.
What did they do to hurt you?
What are the 2 or 3 biggest lies you read in their news pages? (Not the opinion pages)
@David
https://www.nytimes.com/2004/05/26/world/from-the-editors-the-times-and-iraq.html
On Oct. 26 and Nov. 8, 2001, for example, Page 1 articles cited Iraqi defectors who described a secret Iraqi camp where Islamic terrorists were trained and biological weapons produced. These accounts have never been independently verified.
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The problematic articles varied in authorship and subject matter, but many shared a common feature. They depended at least in part on information from a circle of Iraqi informants, defectors and exiles bent on ”regime change” in Iraq, people whose credibility has come under increasing public debate in recent weeks. (The most prominent of the anti-Saddam campaigners, Ahmad Chalabi, has been named as an occasional source in Times articles since at least 1991, and has introduced reporters to other exiles. He became a favorite of hard-liners within the Bush administration and a paid broker of information from Iraqi exiles, until his payments were cut off last week.)
Yes, these are false statements that appeared in the newspaper. But these can’t be the examples that Philip was referring to, right?
First, they were 21 years ago.
Second, they were clearly reported as “people we interviewed said …”. Look at the first sentence in every paragraph and you’ll see this.
https://www.nytimes.com/2001/11/08/world/a-nation-challenged-the-school-defectors-cite-iraqi-training-for-terrorism.html
Do you think they were giving their best efforts to report on the true situation, or was this all a planned lie on the part of the staff writers?
David: I think you’re a good illustration of the general principle articulated by a Russian émigré: “The difference between Americans and Soviets is that we didn’t believe the propaganda.”
What has the New York Times lied about in its news pages recently? Nearly every article related to low-skill immigration is a lie. In https://philip.greenspun.com/blog/2022/09/06/counting-undetected-undocumented-immigrants/ I cite a NYT news article that states as fact “the million who have been allowed in since Mr. Biden took office — a figure that comes from internal Homeland Security data and court filings — are from more than 150 countries around the globe. With few pathways to enter the United States legally, crossing the border without documentation is often the only option for those fleeing crime and economic despair.” (unless they’re from Canada or Mexico, they had the option to stay in Canada or Mexico and request asylum in those countries!)
https://philip.greenspun.com/blog/2022/01/27/a-corrected-history-of-mrna-vaccines/ describes the NYT’s 30-page lie regarding the history of mRNA vaccines (Robert Malone was written out by Minitrue)
Children were not substantially harmed by lockdowns and school closures, say “experts” quoted in a news article: https://philip.greenspun.com/blog/2021/04/28/new-york-times-experts-as-prophets/
Nearly every article mentioning GDP growth is a lie in accordance with the propaganda goal of telling Americans how great and vibrant we are. (The lie being the failure to note that population is growing and, therefore, GDP growth per capita may be minimal or non-existent.)
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/29/briefing/hurricane-ian-storm-climate-change.html says that severe hurricanes are becoming more severe, failing to mention a Nature paper from 2021 that says the opposite (https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-021-24268-5 ).
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/24/well/live/covid-best-masks.html says that cloth masks worn by the general public work great against SARS-CoV-2. Compare to https://www.statista.com/statistics/1104709/coronavirus-deaths-worldwide-per-million-inhabitants/ where the countries that were most enthusiastic about forced masking are among those with the highest death rates.
And then, of course, we have the Silicon Valley behemoths doing their best to make sure that it is tough to find an alternative to the official propaganda. Facebook and Twitter suppressed the Hunter Biden laptop email story ($10 million for “the big guy”; the photos of Hunter spending 80 percent of his money on hookers and crack cocaine, then simply wasting the rest). https://variety.com/2020/digital/news/facebook-twitter-ny-post-hunter-biden-smoking-gun-story-1234805177/
Actually now that we mention Hunter, the NYT lies by omission. There is a granddaughter of the President of the United States out there (cash yield: $2.5 million down and then another $2-4 million over 18 years? see https://radaronline.com/p/hunter-biden-support-payments-love-child-lowered-change-income/ ), but searching for “Lunden Roberts” (the plaintiff who retired from her stripper job) and “Navy Joan” (the cash-yielding child) both turn up no results at nytimes.com. The NYT has space for a lot of stories, but somehow they can’t find space to write about a stripper working for one night with the Biden family and earning more, after tax, than a NYT journalist would earn in 100 years?
Those are a few that I could find quickly! Anyway, unless Nick Fuentes is exceptionally dense he wouldn’t have any difficulty in realizing that he was being lied to on a regular basis.
Not sure about Fuentes, but how many Americans know the name of the Jew who personally organized and supervised extermination of 7 to 10 million mostly Slavic Christians?
…tells you everything you need to know about the victimhood culture.
averros: You’ve got me curious. When/what was this extermination and who was the notorious Jew?
@philg, I believe averros meant Lazar Kaganovich ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lazar_Kaganovich ).
Though one may argue that he had nothing against Slavic Christians as such, but merely purged class enemies.
Hey, rabbits are more dangerous than you might think!
All lions know is the jewish girls all told them to get lost.
You mentioned 2 of Trump’s dinner guests, Ye and mr. Fuentes, but left out the 3rd: Ye’s “campaign manger” Milo Yiannopoulos. Milo had a feud with Trump, blamed Trump for ruining his life, and vowed revenge against him.
Trump was expecting Ye, but not Milo and Fuentes. It’s likely Trump (and possibly Ye) didn’t know anything about Fuentes, but Milo certainly did. And Milo certainly foresaw the negative press that would be generated by Trump having dinner with Fuentes.
Nick Fuentes is just a guy with some opinions. It is bizarre that people are so afraid of him that he is banned from social media. His opinions are mainly that of America First and Christianity, and these should not be so offensive.
My latest thought (added to the original post): If the pool at Mar-A-Lago were renamed “Wannsee” we could say that a Mexican-American and a Black poet chaired the Second Wannsee Conference.
The people whose opinions would horrify much of this crowd think Fuentes is controlled opposition. Another fake and gay gatekeeper.