The relationship between cloud service companies and AI companies transcribed for military hardware… “France Wants to Build Jet Fighters for Ukraine. Neither Has the Cash.” (WSJ):
Separately, the article says that it will take at least 10 years for these fighters to be produced:
Dassault Aviation, the French aircraft manufacturer of the Rafale, would struggle to produce 100 jet fighters within the next 10 years, said Léo Péria-Peigné, a researcher at the French Institute for International Relations. Manufacturing a Rafale takes around two to three years, and the company said last month it still had 233 jets on order that it aimed to deliver over the next five years.
Does this mean that people expect the Russia-Ukraine war to continue for at least 10 more years?
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The conquest of Crimea is already 11 years in the past & Israel has been going at it for 77 years. Forever wars are the way in our modern age of non nuclear weapons. Too bad for everyone planning on downsizing by moving to Odessa. At least Portugal hasn’t fallen to Putin yet.
I think this is because most of the people, who are not smart enough to fit into mean-tested public benefits criteria, work harder under stress. One of my past employers actually was creating stressful situation on purpose to make employees work harder. Did not work on me, but worked on most others. To be fare not on Americans, they fired all Americans before they fired me. Also works on Israelis and Russians. Israel’s economy recovered faster then EU economy after covid shutdown and Russian economy is growing farther the EU economy after initial pull-back. Also, India – Pakistan conflict only increased outsourcing.
> Does this mean that people expect the Russia-Ukraine war to continue for at least 10 more years?
No one knows for sure how long this war will last. But one thing is clear: NATO members failing to meet their obligations is a major reason the conflict in Ukraine is dragging on. NATO isn’t the powerhouse it could be because the U.S. has been carrying nearly the entire burden of NATO.
Under the Biden administration, the U.S. supplied Ukraine with far more weapons than all of Europe combined. That changed under Trump, when European NATO members began providing weapons to Ukraine and then buying replacements from the U.S. to restock their own arsenals. So don’t expect Europe to build up its own military capabilities anytime soon.
You can rely on your friends for a long time, but when you piss on them, is when you realize you are on your own.
Your second paragraph is demonstrably false. Most estimates show that the US and EU have provided about the same amount in military aid to Ukraine (in fact, slightly more from EU countries), and when combined with financial aid, the EU has provided far more. Which is right.
It will take time, but the EU will restock their arsenals, and it mostly will not be from US-made overpriced stuff. Indeed, when you realise you’re on your own, you look elsewhere.
@Jarle, This doesn’t support your argument:
“… As a result, Europe has, for the first time since June 2022, surpassed the U.S. in total military aid, totaling EUR 72 billion compared to EUR 65 billion from the U.S. …” [1]
Thus, the U.S. was doing all the heavy lifting, until Trump stepped in.
> It will take time, but the EU will restock their arsenals, and it mostly will not be from US-made overpriced stuff.
What is your timeline projection? Because this: “Deliveries of the Rafale F4s are planned to be completed by 2035, while joint production of interceptor drones begins this year” [2] is simply not realistic.
> Indeed, when you realise you’re on your own, you look elsewhere.
True, but unfortunately, it is too late, and it never should have come to this if the EU and NATO had contributed their fair share.
[1] https://www.kielinstitut.de/publications/news/ukraine-support-europe-largely-fills-the-us-aid-withdrawal-lead-byn-the-nordics-and-the-uk/
[2] https://archive.ph/uY673#selection-659.0-659.138
Here’s a vague answer for Dr. Greenspun:
The war will continue till the balance / equilibrium between NATO and Russia is restored. This equilibrium point is a complete and total understanding of the other side. There are two theoretical ways of reaching this point, non-violent or violent. A common non-violent method is via words, like debates, diplomacy etc. The violent method is via weapons. Both these methods need people who can sense Nature’s equilibrium in power, generals and philosophers/diplomats. The faster one side understands the other, the quicker the war would end.