Don’t kill your enemies if you want to win a war (NYT)

Curtis LeMay: “I’ll tell you what war is about, you’ve got to kill people, and when you’ve killed enough they stop fighting”

New York Times, regarding the untimely death of Ali Larijani, the guy who’d been running Iran: “Israel’s Killing of Ali Larijani Could Allow Military to Tighten Grip on Iran … had a reputation for acting as a bridge between hard-line figures in the armed forces and more moderate political factions”.

If that wasn’t clear enough for communicating how foolhardy the idea of killing the enemy is as a warfighting technique, the NYT ran a second article explaining that killing the enemy “can backfire” (i.e., will backfire).

(The Iranians retaliated per usual by launching missiles at civilians in Tel Aviv. One odd feature of this war is that the Iranians complain that it is against the laws of war when the U.S. kills some civilians by mistake while at the same time the Iranians mostly attack civilian targets, e.g., in Israel or the Gulf Arab states. Similarly, folks in the West don’t complain that Iran attacks civilians, but point out that if we were to shut down Iran’s weapons factories by disabling oil production and electric power generation that would be a war crime because civilians also benefit from oil sales and electric power.)

The New York Times doesn’t explain its rationale for why killing the enemy is a sure way to lose a war, but maybe it follows logically from Islam being the Religion of Peace. If Muslims are by definition peaceful then killing a Muslim such as Ali Larijani reduces the amount of peace in the world.

A good companion piece, from state-sponsored PBS: don’t be concerned about the four Islamic jihads waged domestically in the first two weeks of March (Ayman Mohamad Ghazali trying to kill 140 preschoolers in Michigan, Mohamed Bailor Jalloh killing Lieutenant Colonel Brandon Shah, an Army helicopter pilot, in Virginia, Emir Balat and Ibrahim Kayumi throwing bombs in Manhattan, and Ndiaga Diagne killing Texans). Islamophobia is the real problem here in the U.S.

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18 thoughts on “Don’t kill your enemies if you want to win a war (NYT)

  1. When I looked, that “news analysis” article was in the premier top left position instead of, um, actual news. I succumbed to the inclination to click on it to find out if it was going to actually be labelled as analysis or opinion. It was, but font miniaturization technology is improving all the time.

  2. “More than two weeks into the war with Iran, Muslim Americans are confronting a new surge of hateful rhetoric amplified online and echoed by some of the country’s most prominent Republican officials.” [1]

    If that is the case, then why do so many of our Muslim brothers and sisters continue to immigrate to America and other Western countries? The answer is simple: in their home countries, protesting against the government means arrest or worse. The only public demonstrations are organized by the government, which you cannot refuse to participate.

    [1] https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=891218340576725

  3. 7 KC-135’s gone. This is the 1st war in a long time where the enemy has not really lost its ability to project power & the air force has suffered significant losses. It’s the 1st the time the enemy has had the same drone capability as US.

    • Can you support your allegations about KC-135s losses? Or are you getting it from Qatarson who works primarily on foreign Islamic audience?

    • Lion, your facts here seem ungrounded. KC-135s lost=1 and 1 damaged in collision between two (no fault of Iran) a couple others damaged on ground by shrapnel but all except one back flying now. Also, super difficult to argue Iran hasn’t lost the majority of its ability to project power (entire airforce, navy, air defenses, majority of ballistic missiles and launchers destroyed, drones also way down).

    • Lion has gone insane. Iran has zero ability to project power, and the USAF has lost one plane in an accident. What in the hell is he/she/they/xer/fae talking about?

    • Lion lives in California. Democrats there are ready to surrender after 2.5 weeks even though the French held out for 6 week. All the Californians I know think the US has already lost and it is time to surrender to the brave Iranians.

    • Anon, Iran has zero ability to hit US and Israeli military. However it shoots ballistic shot-shells (a dumb cluster bombs mounted on a multi-million dollars ballistic rockets, see Iranian real exchange rates 1 IRR = 0.000001 USD) at civilian targets, so even if the missile is intercepted the shrapnel makes it through. Israel has about 15 minutes warning for these expensive ballistic fragmentation grenades so casualties are minimal, as cluster bombs are relatively under-powered and have low hit density when exploded miles over the ground, but isolated old people with disabilities are not always can make it to the shelters. Just yesterday a couple in their 70th died in the attack, one of them had a disability.

    • perplexed: The Queers for Palestine don’t seem to be complaining that Iran is committing war crimes by targeting civilians (as you point out, they don’t have too many other options since they’ve become so feeble). Is this some sort of corollary to Muslims being indigenous to any country that they conquer?

    • Philip, per Ms. “Omar” and Democratic Party they built America. So lion there in CA lives on Muslim land and paying jizya by posting mullah’s propaganda here. Think that CA legislature is discussing adding 2 Islamic state holidays right now.

    • Inshallah, California will soon rename all of its public schools to “madrasas” and every school day will begin with Qur’an recitation. Allahu Akbar, Walnut Creek!

    • @philg:

      > perplexed: The Queers for Palestine don’t seem to be complaining that Iran is committing war crimes by targeting civilians (as you point out, they don’t have too many other options since they’ve become so feeble).

      The killing of infidels, whether they are civilians or not, is permitted and even encouraged in certain parts of the Muslim world. While this was also supported by the Crusades during the late Middle Ages, the fact that Muslims still support it today, tells you how suck in the stone-age they are.

    • George: it is infidels themselves who seem to think it is reasonable when the Iranians target and kill civilians, many of whom are noble fellow Muslims (e.g., in Gulf Arab states or Muslims in Israel or the West Bank).

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