“Schneiderman Will Not Face Criminal Charges in Abuse Complaints” (nytimes):
After a six-month investigation, prosecutors said Thursday that they would not pursue criminal charges against Eric T. Schneiderman, the former New York State attorney general who resigned in May after four women accused him of assaulting them.
“I believe the women who shared their experiences with our investigation team,” Ms. Singas wrote, “however legal impediments, including statutes of limitations, preclude criminal prosecution.”
The women, who had been romantically involved with him, accused him of choking, hitting and slapping them, sometimes during sex and often after drinking. All of them said the violence was not consensual.
Harvey hasn’t been accused of being violent, right? He is accused of trading roles in movies for ordinary non-violent sexual favors?
This former New York politician was inflicting non-consensual violence on women, possibly every night year after year (since the women continued their romantic relationship with him despite the violent attacks). Why isn’t that more worthy of prosecution than Harvey’s casting bathrobe operation?
[Separately, the Times also says
In the immediate wake of the allegations, Mr. Schneiderman at first denied assaulting or abusing anyone, saying he had “engaged in role-playing” with the women. But in a statement issued Thursday morning, he apologized both to them and to the people of New York. He also said that he had spent time in “a rehab facility” and was “committed to a lifelong path of recovery and making amends to those I have harmed.”
What kind of “rehab” would be effective for changing someone’s sexual proclivities? We ridicule anyone who says that they are going to “rehab” people out of homosexual desires, right? Why would it be more effective to rehab this guy out of whatever he was enjoying in bed for the last 5-10 years?]
According to the BBC, Weinstein has been accused of rape by more than one woman: https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-41580010
Patrick: Thanks for the link. The women accusing Harvey use the word “rape,” but they don’t say that he used any kind of physical force or violence as part of the rape. Other than concern for their next film role, they don’t say that anything prevented them from getting up and running away from this elderly obese guy, do they? Contrast to Schneiderman’s accusers, who say that they were repeatedly beaten and choked against their will.
Then Weinstein grabbed her, she said. “He shoved me onto the bed, and he got on top of me.” Sciorra struggled. “I kicked and I yelled,” she said, but Weinstein locked her arms over her head with one hand and forced sexual intercourse on her.
https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/weighing-the-costs-of-speaking-out-about-harvey-weinstein
If I interpreted the New Yorker article correctly, that incident with Sciorra would have been in the early 90s. According to Wikipedia Weinstein was born in 1952, so he would have been in his early 40s at the time.
That’s a dramatic tale Ms. Sciorra tells, but I don’t think it is relevant to his prosecution. Harvey is not being prosecuted for anything involving Ms. Sciorra.
Harv raped ’em so badly they couldn’t call 911 afterwards – he raped their fingers.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/30/us/harvey-weinstein-indictment/index.html
A New York City grand jury on Wednesday indicted movie producer Harvey Weinstein on charges of rape in the first and third degrees and first-degree criminal sexual act, the Manhattan District Attorney’s Office said.
https://statelaws.findlaw.com/new-york-law/new-york-rape-laws.html
First Degree Rape
A person is guilty of rape in the first degree when he or she engages in sexual intercourse with another person:
>By “forcible compulsion” — compelling the victim through the use of physical force or the threat of immediate death, physical injury or kidnapping;
>Who is incapable of consent by reason of being physically helpless;
>Who is less than 11 years old; or
>Who is less than 13 years old and the defendant is 18 years old or more.
@Patrick Weinstein used “forcible compulsion” on hundreds or thousands of women during his Hollywood career and not one of them reported the rape to the police shortly afterwards. #IBelieveHer
Sextus Empiricus:
One of the questions raised by Philip was about the accusations vs. the prosecution in the cases of Schneiderman and Weinstein respectively. I was attempting to dig up some of the published data on the Weinstein case. Assessing the merits of the case is a further matter.
Ugh. Agree that rehab is pointless for this guy. Both these men should be in prison.
Regarding whether relationships that are ongoing and consensual cannot also be criminally abusive…I read
https://www.thestranger.com/features/2018/11/07/35073826/death-of-a-kinkster
this morning in my local paper (Warning: this article made me want to throw up, and I’m already laid up with the flu!) This young gay guy died after injecting himself with silicone at the orders of his “master”. Note that the young man in the article consented (even enthusiasitcally so) to his wealthy older partner’s demands. Yet it’s obvious that this “master” was still a monstrously abusive weirdo who emotionally isolated his partner and manipulated him into increasingly risky behaviors, which ultimately led to the young man’s death.
> Why isn’t that more worthy of prosecution … ?
Speculation: because a State attorney general is well placed (more so than a movie producer) to learn discreditable facts about people, facts that they would much prefer remain generally unknown.
The obvious answer is the Dems control the prosecutorial branch of NY State and City government and it is not in their interest to go after a fellow Dem. And it is too trivial for the feds to bother with. Going after Harvey is good politics — like who really sympathizes with him — and my guess is the jury will come back with a not guilty because the government will likely be unable to prove rape beyond a reasonable doubt. Note the charges that were dropped a couple of weeks ago because a wannabe attention seeking actress perjured herself in front of the grand jury and therefor the charge that she was rapped had to be dropped. In a more typical prosecution the whole thing would have been dropped.
Here is an article about the actress that perjured herself that jack was mentioning;
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6375935/Harvey-Weinsteins-lawyers-say-chances-freedom-boosted-accuser-changes-story.html
Seems Léa Seydoux spent a lot of time in producers’ hotel rooms on her way to stardom.