Jacksonville Beach and St. Augustine for a winter vacation

We experimented this year with a winter escape to a part of Florida that is a little cooler than Miami, but a lot less packed with both locals and tourists. Here’s a report…

Jacksonville Beach was a huge hit with the kids. A beachfront hotel with a pool is about $200/night and will keep everyone entertained all day. Atlantic Beach and Neptune Beach are lower density. The One Ocean hotel in Atlantic Beach is a good place to start. We stayed at the Hampton Inn in Jacksonville Beach, which is okay, but the room-to-room sound transmission makes earplugs essential. The adjacent Marriott looked newer and might be better. All of these places have wide firmly packed beaches (partly due to the miracle of dredging and “beach replenishment), ideal for long walks. The beaches are also dog-friendly all winter all day, so bring the family dog.

The killer breakfast option is Maple Street Biscuit Company, a small local chain. Metro Diner is more traditional/conventional, but also excellent. We enjoyed V Pizza for lunch. This is strictly wood-fired and presided over by a fanatical Albanian who spent 10 years in Italy. (St. Augustine has Pizza Time, for which people wait in line for 45 minutes, but it is boring electric-oven pizza that you could get on any street corner in NYC.) Atlantic Beach has a bunch of elegant dinner spots with outdoor tables. They’re all pretty good, but service suffers when they’re busy (the future of U.S. restaurants, I’m pretty sure, is Panera-style order-at-the-counter; Maple Street works this way and so does V Pizza; it doesn’t make sense to buy health care at the world’s highest prices for a waiter when it is easy enough to get up and grab one’s own dish). Kazu Sushi Burrito in Jacksonville Beach and Tokyo Ramen in a strip mall in Atlantic Beach were both good breaks from the burgers.

St. Augustine was so packed in the days before and just after New Year’s that it wasn’t pleasant. Make sure to book a hotel right in the center of town (i.e., in the historical walking area) because traffic and parking are murderous. Most of the sights are best for kids 7 or older, I would say. Younger children will be happier at Jacksonville Beach. Consider a day trip from Jacksonville Beach to St. Augustine, though it needs to be a 12-hour day if you’re going to see the main sights. There is an awesome playground right next to the main parking structure in St. Augustine.

If you brought a light airplane, Sky Harbor at KCRG is a great FBO. Zip down to KTIX (about 45 minutes) to the Valiant Air Command warbird museum (park on their ramp after calling ahead). We stumbled into a tour by a retired USMC F-4 pilot. See also the B-52 cockpit below!

A 10-minute ride from KTIX is the Kennedy Space Center’s visitor theme park. This is privately run and keeps chugging along despite any government shutdowns. The only interaction with official Feds is when guards (armed with the assault rifles that the government assures us no reasonable person actually needs) board the tourist bus (to make sure nobody is planning an armed takeover of NASA’s launchpad?).

(Here’s a good image for flight instructors:

“They made it to the moon with a paper flight plan and you need a phone app to go on a 50 nm cross country?”)

The Cummer Museum in Jacksonville is a good escape from the kids (see https://philip.greenspun.com/blog/2019/01/23/the-art-of-victimhood/). The Jacksonville Zoo is awesome. The Museum of Contemporary Art in downtown Jacksonville had some interesting exhibits. Don’t forget the candy factory across the square!

“The economy is based on poor people,” said one local. His perspective was confirmed by the fact that the most impressive building in Jacksonville is the new 800,000 square foot Duval County Courthouse (more than $400 million including the land?). Billboards through the region feature personal injury and divorce lawyers (Florida offers permanent alimony, so plaintiffs have a strong incentive to litigate; for unmarried plaintiffs, the state also offers unlimited child support, assuming the defendant has sufficient income). The next tier of awesomeness in building is occupied by hospitals, including the Mayo Clinic. A young local couple on the beach with their Bernese Mountain Dog said that both worked in health care and that “all” of their patients were on either Medicaid or Medicare. At least they won’t be wiped out from buying gasoline…

Locals seemed surprised that anyone would want to come to this part of Florida for a beach vacation before April or after October. However, the lack of crowds is nice (except in St. Augustine between Christmas and New Year’s!). The ocean isn’t warm enough for swimming, but a typical daily high temperature is close to 70 degrees and walking around in a T-shirt is a luxury from this Bostonian’s perspective. Atlantic and Neptune beaches are built up only to a reasonable human scale:

Aviation enthusiasts should make sure that they arrive with full IFR currency. We had fog or a low-ish cloud layer over the coastal airports at least half of the time so there were plenty of instrument approaches to be done. Sky Harbor at Craig is a great FBO and Atlantic at SGJ is very welcoming as well.

How about New Yorkers and Californians relocating to Atlantic Beach to escape the new cruel taxation regime of the Trumpenfuhrer, in which their state income taxes (used by state Democrats only for the most virtuous purposes) are no longer deductible against Federal income tax? What if these well-meaning folks decide that they like the beach and don’t want to pay the higher effective tax rates that they’ve long been advocating?  Zillow says that a nice 20-year-old 5BR house just one block back from the beach (will be beachfront soon enough!) is $950,000 and attracts property tax of $7,700 per year (barely raised since 2003).

10 thoughts on “Jacksonville Beach and St. Augustine for a winter vacation

  1. Thanks for sharing some great pictures holiday hints, since the post had lots of photos, and I need some advice on camera upgrade, any suggestions for what to upgrade an Canon EOS 350 to? I apologize if not following topic, however cameras and photography seem to be an ongoing topic!

    I have $1000 invested in Canon lenses, it seems like a $1300 Canon 6D Mark II would increase SNR, pixels by 3X, maximum shooting speed considerable. If I want to spend no more than $2K, are there any better options, would it be better to wait for the next mirrorless Canon, or switch to Sony?

    Sigma 18-250mm F3.5-6.3 Stabilized:
    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008B48AAE/ref=pe_385040_128020140_pd_te_s_bx_im/179-7560796-3495136

    Canon 70-200L f/4
    https://www.amazon.com/Canon-70-200mm-Telephoto-Zoom-Cameras/dp/B000053HH5/

    Canon 28mm F/2.8
    Canon 50mm F/1.8

    I am looking into upgrading from this camera:

    https://www.dpreview.com/products/canon/slrs/canon_eos350d

  2. Viking: Thanks for your confidence. The above photos were all taken with an iPhone X, I think!

    I think it is best to give up on Canon unless you have a specialized photographic project for which Canon is ideal. Sony is so far ahead in sensor tech and demand for non-phone cameras is flat/falling. If there is one company guaranteed to survive through 2030, why wouldn’t it be the company that makes the sensors? Sony has proven that they can make lenses just as good as anything from Nikon and Canon.

  3. You told us not to do this, but here’s my one exception. I just love this post. Personally I can’t believe we’re not pumping gas with the metric system, either. We should have switched. Carter was right about that, but we have much bigger problems, now.

  4. By the way I hope you’re wrong about Panera-style ordering at restaurants, because it won’t be every restaurant. It’ll just be the ones where a lot of people used to work.

  5. Somehow missed the paperwork in the Saturn V center. Amazing how much manual labor was involved. Chlorinate water, canister change, G&N power down. Flying to the moon was almost as complicated as general aviation.

  6. But why not to go to all inclusive at Rivera Maya? You can swim in the ocean – and there is no worry where to feed the kids!

  7. I’m an active reader of this blog, but I rarely comment. The pictures in this post seemed so much better to me than those typically shared, that I logged on to congratulate you on them and inquire whether you’d recently converted to the Fujifilm Mirrorless system.

    Then there I see the first comment – Viking’s – also is about image making. Before I could send my off-topic post, it became on-topic.

    Back to Fujifilm. My opinion, and the opinion of many who are much brighter and more talented than me, is that Fujifilm makes the best camera interface, and the lenses are nothing short of spectacular. The crop sensor (yes, apparently made by Sony to Fuji’s specs) stands right up to full frame. Colors are great, and so too is the low light performance.

    I’d urge anyone who’s considering a new camera purchase, first rent an X-T2 or X-T3 with the 16-55 2.8 lens and give it a try. No, I don’t work for Fuji. I just sound like I do.

    • I never thought about Fuji, but reading the review of X-T3 makes me want to buy one. It does have small sensor, but other than that, everything seems superb.

      Other than the small sensor, this camera seems to be very similar as the Sony A9 for $4K.

      The one reason it is hard for me to jump to Sony is that the lens prices are astronomical. It does seem like there are some adapters between $100 and $250 that allow me to use my Canon lenses, and also autofocus.

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