Navy pilots see UFOs that commercial airline pilots don’t

“‘Wow, What Is That?’ Navy Pilots Report Unexplained Flying Objects” (nyt):

The strange objects, one of them like a spinning top moving against the wind, appeared almost daily from the summer of 2014 to March 2015, high in the skies over the East Coast. Navy pilots reported to their superiors that the objects had no visible engine or infrared exhaust plumes, but that they could reach 30,000 feet and hypersonic speeds.

“These things would be out there all day,” said Lt. Ryan Graves, an F/A-18 Super Hornet pilot who has been with the Navy for 10 years, and who reported his sightings to the Pentagon and Congress. “Keeping an aircraft in the air requires a significant amount of energy. With the speeds we observed, 12 hours in the air is 11 hours longer than we’d expect.”

Commercial airliners operate in the same general areas and far more hours per year, yet their pilots don’t report similar stuff.

Could it be the curved canopy of the fighter jets?

11 thoughts on “Navy pilots see UFOs that commercial airline pilots don’t

  1. Aliens spending their vacation visiting Earth don’t want to see boring commercial Airbus and Boeings. They come to see sleek military jets, watch rockets docking at the ISS, and walk around NYC while barely disguised.

    • They are not aliens. They are Vril on expedition from the subterranean climate control machines embedded deep within earth’s crust.

  2. Oh my God, they’re back!

    I remember reading about this a few years ago, and it keeps resurfacing every so often. Interest wanes and magically the PR winds start blowing to compensate and keep the fires burning. It pretty much began with Harry Reid in 2007 and I last remember reading about it in 2017.

    “The Times also reported that “Robert Bigelow, a billionaire entrepreneur and longtime friend of Mr. Reid, received most of the money allocated for the Pentagon program.”[2]”

    The “Media Reporting” section at this link is … fascinating. There’s money in this.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Aerospace_Threat_Identification_Program

  3. Sorry for the double post but I’d never forgive myself if I didn’t mention the following in connection with this story:

    Blink-182
    Tom DeLonge
    To the Stars Academy of Arts and Sciences
    Secret Stockpiles of UFO Artifacts…in NEVADA
    Space Time Metric Engineering
    $37 Million Dollars Debt in 2018

    https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/evw7ne/tom-delonges-ufo-organization-is-37-million-in-debt

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  4. Are the military pilots seeing these with their own eyes, or are they being picked up on radar or other sensors?

    If we rule out the most likely explanation (leprechauns) then we have three possible explanations:

    1. Foreign (earthly) origin
    2. Area 51
    3. It’s aliens (extremely undocumented )

    Applying my puny Earthling logic would suggest that the most likely answer is (2), they’re ours, and specifically the USAF as they seem intent on oinking the Navy. If you truly have breakthrough technology, on the order of the Conquistadores marching on Tenochtitlan, then game theory favors keeping it super-secret until you’re either attacked or ready to kill the king.

    If we had something like this, and wanted to test it, then testing it on ourselves is the smartest way. We have the most advanced capabilities so it’s an acid test, we give up the least info to the enemy, and if the game goes badly there’s no risk of escalation to war.

    If you’re ET, then I don’t see much point to running around chasing Super Hornets when you have a level of situational dominance beyond what we have over uncontacted tribes in the Amazon. Unless of course this is what Martian pilots do for R&R on weekend liberty.

  5. Could it be blind studies to gauge the efficacy of the military’s indoctrination/training programs?

    Is it possible that the military would want to stage something strange and observe what comes of it? How does the pilot react in the moment? What happens afterward? Does the pilot—or someone else in the chain of command—follow procedures? Does information leak?

  6. Their imagination, like the F-22 respiratory thing that there was never any evidence for. A huge amount of money was spent investigating it, finding nothing, and it … just … sort of … petered out, and everyone forgot about it.

    Psychogenic delusions and “illnesses” tend to happen a lot within tight social groups that spend a lot of time together.

    • Kimberly’s explanation sounds like the most plausible. But it’s the least exciting of the lot. Aliens would be very exciting. Area 51 would be fascinating. As long as we’re just speculating — in my case, from the breakfast table on an overcast Saturday morning — I’m going to vote for Aliens. If they are Aliens, think of what that would do for diminishing perceived differences among human religions, races and nationalities.

  7. People don’t realized how processed what they “see” has been. The human visual system is not a real-time analog system. It’s a digital, frames-per-second system that is highly processed in different parts of the brain, some processing being slower, some being more brain-stem level fast. Optical illusions and various magic tricks work because we think we are seeing what’s in front of us, when we are seeing a construct.

    Here’s a page from the University of Birmingham on visual perception and illusions:

    https://www.studocu.com/en-gb/document/university-of-birmingham/visual-perception-and-illusions/lecture-notes/visual-perception-and-illusions-lecture-notes-l1/644797/view

    Some key points:

    — We do not perceive physical reality! The visual system does not represent the physical world correctly – it makes assumptions about the world based on our previous experiences.

    — Our visual system transmits in digital (electrical impulses/ action potentials) and we only transmit the important information. E.g. we don’t transmit things humans don’t need to react too like infrared light. We only tend to transmit changes that occur over time rather than things that stay the same.

    — The brain has to reconstruct (de-code) the image. It does this via excitation. Excitation leads to a third type of illusion: filling in.

    — Illusory motion: illusory motion is the sensation of motion in a static stimulus. If MT cells are active we see illusory motion activated by static stimuli possibly by inappropriate excitation between cells sensitive to orientation & motion.

    And so on. I sit in my garden a lot, and I often see critters and birds in my peripheral vision … that aren’t there.

  8. It has to do a lot with what @Benjamin said and the fact that military pilots pull in more G’s and erratic flight plan than aviation pilots.

    I did my thesis on computer graphics back in 1991. One of the first thing I learned about computer vision and graphics from my professor is that the goal of the generated images isn’t to make them look as real as possible as the real world, it is to fool the brain to think they are seeing the real thing.

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