Sub-Zero refrigerator with R600a owner’s review

Back in October 2022, we ordered a $13,249 Sub-Zero refrigerator to replace a 42-inch-wide KitchenAid from 2003. The KitchenAid was a $500 landlord special wrapped in $3,000 (pre-Biden dollars) of cabinetry. It looked beautiful with panels that match our cabinets. Unfortunately, the fridge was set up with a single compressor and single evaporator. Cold air to the fridge was supplied via a duct/door from the freezer compartment to the fridge compartment. Failed insulation after 20 years between the two compartments resulted in frost building up every 3-4 weeks and causing the freezer to go down to -20F while the fridge went up to +50F or higher. The automatic defrost mechanism wasn’t hitting the location where this frost was building. KitchenAid’s latest and greatest fridges weren’t exactly compatible with our panels and, in any case, were out of stock. Everyone seems to like the local Sub-Zero service organization and friends with Sub-Zs were happy with the product, so decided to go “Full Douche”.

The new fridge showed up in mid-January 2024, 15 months after our order. Partly this was due to underpricing in a world of raging inflation (corrected to some extent; the current price is $14,250, a 7.5 percent increase that in no way suggests that the U.S. is plagued by inflation). Partly this was due to Sub-Zero having introduced a new product line that relies on R600a refrigerant, which is more energy efficient and also enables a more compact cooling system, thus resulting in 0.5 cu. ft. more freezer space.

The aesthetics, such as they are, take some getting used to. It’s a huge wall of stainless steel in what is otherwise a somewhat traditional kitchen. The cream-colored cabinet panels that we had before looked a lot better in my opinion. If you’re starting from scratch and have the option to do matching cabinet panels, I recommend that. Actually, if you’re starting from scratch and have the option to use a non-built-in fridge that can be purchased at any time at Home Depot for $1,000 to $2,500 (a dual evaporator model at the higher end), I recommend that! Despite its hulking size, this 42-inch-wide fridge holds only 24 cu. ft. in the two compartments combined. You can make a freestanding fridge look like a built-in simply by digging out a one-foot space behind the fridge. A 36-inch-wide LG freestanding fridge has 30 cu. ft. of space. It’s 36 inches deep without handles (compare to 26″ for the Sub-Z). It has dual evaporators, all kinds of fancy features including a clear door, and costs $3,200. If it were to die, Home Depot has a whole page of 36-inch wide freestanding fridges, including single-evaporator models (like our old KitchenAid!) starting at just over $1,000.

The first thing that we noticed is the noise. This fridge has, I think, two compressors. Each one is definitely louder than on a standard LG or Whirlpool fridge and the two together make a continuous rumbling that is audible from 15′ away. Everyone who comes to your house will be constantly reminded of what a rich douche you are!

The second thing is that the ice/water dispenser is a design failure compared to what KitchenAid, LG, or anyone else provides. A glass must go twice as deep into the fridge as on the old KitchenAid. If you’re trying to make a powdered drink, for example, it is impossible to stir and fill at the same time (was easy to do with the KitchenAid). More problematic, the water continues to flow for a split second after you take the cup away, thus resulting in a significant spray into the drip tray.

[Update April 10, 2024: After three months of use, we tried for the first time to remove the ice bin to dump ice into a cooler. The bin couldn’t be removed because there was ice stuck in a drop-down door that is part of the ice-making mechanism and maybe a sensor for when the bin is too full. Service was called!]

We haven’t had time to experience whether Sub-Zero’s ethylene gas filter (replace once/year for $65) and other preservation tricks will, in fact, keep produce in good shape for longer. A retailer in Maskachusetts did a test back in 2020 and concluded that “Sub-Zero was the overall winner. It did an excellent job on the grapes and lemon. The cucumber could have been fresher.” The Sub-Zero does have three completely separate sealed drawers in the freezer and four in the fridge, so maybe that helps reduce cross-contamination.

The fridge has built-in Bluetooth and Wi-Fi. It was easy to set up the app and the fridge on Wi-Fi. However, the app doesn’t seem to do what you’d want it to do, i.e., warn you that the actual fridge temp is nowhere near the set fridge temp. In fact, the app can’t show the current refrigerator temperatures (displayed on a panel inside the fridge), but only what it is set to do. This was obvious during the startup phase when the fridge was set to 37 and actually at 70.

[Update March 2024: The app alerted us to phantom temperature settings changes, usually by just a degree, even though nobody was in the fridge touching the controls. This resulted in a service visit and then a return service visit with a new control panel.]

The interior lighting is awesome. If you hire a decorator to come in once a week and arrange everything that you bought at Publix, the result will be a tasteful beautifully lit display. (Or cram in 35 cu. ft. of food, half of it expired, and it will look like our fridge.)

Owners seem to like Sub-Zero. Here’s the satisfaction ranking from Consumer Reports:

Maybe the old refrigerant was associated with a quieter compressor because Consumer Reports reviewed an older model and said that it was 5/5 on quietness. On the third hand, our house came with a ghetto $700 Frigidaire R600a-based 11 cu. ft. fridge built in 2018. It is completely silent (lives in a pantry closet, but we’ve never heard it, even when going into the closet to get items). So the latest and greatest Thunberg-approved Earth-saving refrigerant does not necessarily result in noise.

Three guys from the appliance store (Jetson in Stuart, Florida) came to deliver and install the new fridge ($275, including hauling away the aesthetically beloved KitchenAid). Although I usually don’t see color, I noticed that all three were Black. Skilled labor like this in Boston, by contrast, almost always involves a team of white people coming to the house; Blacks in Maskachusetts occupy a parallel society to which whites seldom gain access. It’s about a two-hour process for removal, delivery, and careful installation.

The KitchenAid lasted for 20 years so the good news is that we have to live with the wall-of-stainless look and the noise for only 20-25 years (median age for replacement of a Sub-Zero is about 22 years, supposedly). I’m still trying to figure out who thought stainless was such a great idea! It won’t accept fridge magnets, which is tragic. It isn’t easy to clean. If stainless steel is so beautiful, why not cover a bedroom or living room wall in stainless? (Elon Musk might be on board with this! He is a huge proponent of stainless steel in rockets and in the Cybertruck.) I guess that circles us back to building a nook for a 36-inch-wide fridge. The visual impact of one of those is much smaller both due to the reduced width and the lack of a compressor tower on top.

[Update: After three months, the fridge has required three service visits (see above). It may be that the mass-market companies have better engineering resources for controls and ice makers!]

Related:

  • the LG 42″ fridge that costs 2/3rds as much ($9k): “Stopped working several time and was Compressor was replaced and 4 months later it is not working again.” and “I bought and had this installed 10 weeks ago, but immediately had problems. … Finally, after 8 weeks, the technician identified the problem as a bent water hose inside the door — a result of poor manufacturing/assembly.” (the $55 water filter is weak by Florida standards; good for just 6 months or 200 gallons; Sub-Z’s is 1 year or 300 gallons for $69)

12 thoughts on “Sub-Zero refrigerator with R600a owner’s review

  1. If stainless steel is so beautiful, why not cover a bedroom or living room wall in stainless? Let’s do it!
    The KitchenAid was a $500 landlord special. The preferred nomenclature is “housing provider”. “landlord” is a dirty term used to disparage “housing providers”. In my opinion it is just as disgusting as many forbidden words such as n***r, f*g, k**e c**t etc etc.

  2. “If stainless steel is so beautiful, why not cover a bedroom or living room wall in stainless? (Elon Musk might be on board with this! He is a huge proponent of stainless steel in rockets and in the Cybertruck.)”

    Or what about a gull-wing 2-seater sports car!

    13 years ago, I bought a white second-hand standard size Frigidaire for $100 from some guy off Facebook that had it in his garage for beer. At that time, it was at least 15 years old. This thing still works great!

  3. I looked at fridges for the new house a couple of years ago.

    The salesman said the subzero would keep an apple fresh for 3 months. I asked him why I would want to keep an apple for 3 months without eating it. No response.

    I ended up getting a 36 in GE Cafe with a scratch on the back for about 1200. It holds more food than the subzero.

    Related:
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=12JgX-LKEbw

    • Sam: If it were geometrically possible to redo our kitchen cabinets to get a 36″-wide standard-depth fridge in, I’m sure that it would have been worth it to spend some money on carpentry and kiss the 42-inch built-in fridges goodbye. The shallow fridge, however, is up against a wall separating the kitchen from a hallway and I think it would take a lot of structural engineering even to get just a few extra inches of depth.

      I do think it is worth spending on dual evaporators!

      That video is a career inspiration!

  4. Hate deep fridges, always loose track of food in them . Shallow, tall and wide would be perfect for me.

  5. > If you’re trying to make a powdered drink, for example, it is impossible to stir and fill at the same time

    While I’m not doubting you, it has never occurred to me to do this. When I make a powdered drink, I put the powder in a Gatorade bottle that is already filled with cold water, close the bottle, then shake. No need for a spoon!

  6. Philip you’ve made me check what the 800EUR / USD Samsung I’ve bought in 2023 has.

    It does have dual evaps (Samsung calls it Twin Cooling) but it’s a 24″ model, not a wide 40″

    It replaced a 3x year old Liebherr that was made in West Germany (remember that country ?). I couldn’t justify paying 4x more for the current Liebherrs.

    • We could have kept our matched-panel KitchenAid going for 15 more years if it had been equipped with dual evaps! The failed insulation would have perhaps led to some kind of temperature non-uniformity, but nothing more serious.

  7. You guys all are so out of touch with todays trend. While you spend money on buying a refrigerator, the rest of us, thanks to our generous government support, we don’t need a refrigerator to store food or make food at home! Uber Eats, eating out, or even grabbing a free meal [1] is the way to go. The extra space where the refrigerator was now holds our ski boards, snorkels, or even beer keg/cooler.

    [1] https://www.city.waltham.ma.us/home/news/here-are-all-the-places-you-can-get-free-meals-to-go-and-groceries-in-waltham-this-week-64

  8. You’re already a zillion dollars into this thing; why not have a wood panel set made for it? You could even line it with a little steel so magnets will stick to it. Maybe it would even absorb a little of the noise.

  9. I can’t help feeling that people who are satisfied after paying $14k for a fridge, what most would consider 10x a top price, are suffering from something like Stockholm syndrome. Unless the fridge comes with a fully operational flux capacitor for a chilly ride to the future.

    • /df: it wouldn’t have been cheaper to get a $2500 fridge because we would have had to do $10,000 of carpentry/cabinetry (at least) to make it (sort of) fit.

      Separately, I’m now discovering that, unlike LG/Samsung/KitchenAid, SubZero doesn’t use fingerprint-resistant stainless steel. To keep the kitchen looking good, we will have to use specialized stainless wipes every few days for the next 20+ years. The old panelized KitchenAid got cleaned perhaps once every 2 months with some 409.

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