I didn’t watch Trump and Hillary contend last night. Maybe readers can let me know what was interesting. One thing I am curious about is whether it makes sense to let a single person decide what is relevant. The moderator says “For the record, I decided the topics and the questions in each topic. None of those questions has been shared with the commission or the two candidates.” What if I were the moderator? Could I ask about Canon v. Nikon, iPhone v. Google Pixel, or obscure FAA regulations and demand that the American public follow along?
From looking at the transcript….
Hillary: the Supreme Court needs to stand on the side of the American people, not on the side of the powerful corporations and the wealthy.
Wealthy people don’t have legal rights.
Hillary: Well, I was upset because, unfortunately, dozens of toddlers injure themselves, even kill people with guns, because, unfortunately, not everyone who has loaded guns in their homes takes appropriate precautions.
Bureaucrats in D.C. are going to change the domestic behavior of gun owners and toddlers via regulation?
Hillary: The government has no business in the decisions that women make with their families in accordance with their faith, with medical advice.
Yet the government now pays for the majority of health care and determines what is paid for.
Trump: Drugs are pouring in through the border. … the single biggest problem is heroin that pours across our southern border.
Aren’t more Americans now addicted to prescription opioids than street heroin? And marijuana is now legal in a lot of states. Is Trump talking about the Colorado border?
Hillary: We have 11 million undocumented people. They have 4 million American citizen children, 15 million people. … I have been for border security for years. I voted for border security in the United States Senate.
Doesn’t this prove Trump’s point that the government, as currently run by people such as Hillary, is incompetent?
Trump: You’re the puppet!
How can a woman who has made more than a billion dollars (including the foundation funds that she can spend as desired) from “serving” as a politician be considered anyone else’s puppet? What does she need or want that she doesn’t already have? Gulfstream 650 instead of 450? The foundation can buy one.
Moderator: The top national security officials of this country do believe that Russia has been behind these hacks. Even if you don’t know for sure whether they are, do you condemn any interference by Russia in the American election?
Why would we want to hear from two older non-technical people regarding computer security?
Hillary: Well, I think when the middle class thrives, America thrives. And so my plan is based on growing the economy, giving middle-class families many more opportunities. I want us to have the biggest jobs program since World War II, jobs in infrastructure and advanced manufacturing.
She promises a Soviet-style planned economy. But why didn’t she and Barack Obama execute this plan back in 2009-2010 when the Democrats controlled congress?
Hillary: I think we can compete with high-wage countries, and I believe we should.
How is that possible when Americans are not as well-educated as people in high-wage countries?
Hillary: I want us to raise the national minimum wage
Why didn’t Obama do that already?
Hillary: I sure do want to make sure women get equal pay for the work we do.
The government will determine the correct wage for each worker, possibly after checking sex chromosomes? Or will gender ID determine the fair wage? Later the moderator points out “Secretary Clinton, I want to pursue your plan, because in many ways it is similar to the Obama stimulus plan in 2009, which has led to the slowest GDP growth since 1949.”
Hillary: I feel strongly that we have to have an education system that starts with preschool and goes through college. That’s why I want more technical education in high schools and in community colleges
The federal government will take over schools and colleges from states.
Trump: Saudi Arabia, nothing but money.
CIA Factbook says that they $53,600 in GDP per capita, about the same as the U.S. Despite falling oil prices their real GDP growth rate is at 3.4%, comfortably ahead of the population growth rate of 1.46%. Trump may be right on this one.
Trump: I am going to renegotiate NAFTA. And if I can’t make a great deal — then we’re going to terminate NAFTA and we’re going to create new deals.
Americans will be richer without having to study or work harder.
Trump: right now, our country is dying at 1 percent GDP.
Trump is correct that our GDP growth rate is pretty close to our population growth rate. Thus the only way to pay for the government that we have voted is massive population growth via immigration (doesn’t work if immigrants collect welfare, though?).
Hillary: I also will not add a penny to the debt.
Clinton is a defrosted Calvin Coolidge?
Hillary: one of the biggest problems we have with China is the illegal dumping of steel and aluminum into our markets. I have fought against that as a senator. I’ve stood up against it as secretary of state.
Why is it still happening then? And it is truly upsetting to have China sell us stuff at a low price?
Hillary: Donald has bought Chinese steel and aluminum.
So Trump is now a competent business manager who found a low-cost high-quality supplier?
Trump: She’s been doing this for 30 years. Why the hell didn’t you do it over the last 15, 20 years? … You were very much involved in every aspect of this country. Very much. And you do have experience. I say the one thing you have over me is experience, but it’s bad experience, because what you’ve done has turned out badly.
Hillary: back in the 1970s, I worked for the Children’s Defense Fund. And I was taking on discrimination against African-American kids in schools.
To the extent that we are told that there is still discrimination against African-Americans in schools today, doesn’t this prove Trump’s point regarding Hillary’s ineffectiveness?
Moderator: Secretary Clinton, during your 2009 Senate confirmation hearing, you promised to avoid even the appearance of a conflict of interest with your dealing with the Clinton Foundation while you were secretary of state, but e-mails show that donors got special access to you. Those seeking grants for Haiti relief were considered separately from non-donors, and some of those donors got contracts, government contracts, taxpayer money.
Hillary: everything I did as secretary of state was in furtherance of our country’s interests and our values. The State Department has said that.
What’s good for the Clinton family is good for America? Maybe that is true if they keep flying Gulfstreams and not Embraers.
Hillary: Well, very quickly, we at the Clinton Foundation spend 90 percent — 90 percent of all the money that is donated on behalf of programs of people around the world and in our own country. I’m very proud of that.
The poor and suffering get rides on chartered Gulfstreams?
Moderator: Do you make the same commitment that you will absolutely — sir, that you will absolutely accept the result of this election?
Trump: I will look at it at the time. I’m not looking at anything now. I’ll look at it at the time.
What does this question (now front page news) even mean? Is the election over when TV networks report a winner? After litigation over various state issues is concluded, as in Gore v. Bush? What if election officials report a result that is wildly inconsistent with polls? Should Hillary “accept the result” if officials say that Trump won by 99:1? What does it mean to reject a result? Sulk at home and tell reporters “I think the vote counting was inaccurate”? Or would Trump have to show up at the White House in January 2017 to demand a paycheck? Like a good deposition witness, Trump should probably have asked for a complete hypothetical rather than an incomplete hypothetical.
Trump: She shouldn’t be allowed to run. It’s crooked — she’s — she’s guilty of a very, very serious crime. She should not be allowed to run.
What does this mean? Who would block someone from running?
Hillary: So that is not the way our democracy works. We’ve been around for 240 years. We’ve had free and fair elections.
Lyndon Johnson was apparently elected to the Senate by fraud (nytimes) and presumably this is not the only example. Why do Americans think that our country is honest while everyone else around the world is corrupt?
Hillary: I am encouraged that there is an effort led by the Iraqi army, supported by Kurdish forces, and also given the help and advice from the number of special forces and other Americans on the ground. … The goal here is to take back Mosul. It’s going to be a hard fight. I’ve got no illusions about that. And then continue to press into Syria to begin to take back and move on Raqqa, which is the ISIS headquarters.
We’re going to pour just enough military resources into this war to make sure that it goes on forever.
Hillary: Donald is implying that he didn’t support the invasion of Iraq. … before the invasion, he supported it.
Why is this relevant? Wasn’t Trump merely a real estate developer at the time? Is he supposed to have had an informed opinion on U.S. military and foreign policy at all points in his life?
Hillary: you are the most dangerous person to run for president in the modern history of America.
More dangerous than Kennedy and Johnson who nearly got us into a nuclear war with the Soviets and who actually did get us into the Vietnam War?
Moderator: Let’s turn to Aleppo. Mr. Trump, in the last debate, you were both asked about the situation in the Syrian city of Aleppo. And I want to follow up on that, because you said several things in that debate which were not true, sir.
… big argument ensues about just how badly Aleppo is doing …
Is a U.S. president supposed to know every detail of every military problem all around the planet? What are the subordinates supposed to do?
Moderator: Secretary Clinton, you have talked about — and in the last debate and again today — that you would impose a no-fly zone to try to protect the people of Aleppo and to stop the killing there. President Obama has refused to do that because he fears it’s going to draw us closer or deeper into the conflict.
Hillary: Well, Chris, first of all, I think a no-fly zone could save lives and could hasten the end of the conflict. I’m well aware of the really legitimate concerns that you have expressed from both the president and the general. This would not be done just on the first day. This would take a lot of negotiation. And it would also take making it clear to the Russians and the Syrians that our purpose here was to provide safe zones on the ground.
We’re going to pour just enough military resources into this war to make sure that it goes on forever.
Hillary: We’ve had millions of people leave Syria and those millions of people inside Syria who have been dislocated.
We will keep pouring resources into the Syrian conflict to ensure that it goes on long enough for everyone in Syria to emigrate to Germany, the U.S., etc.
Hillary: I want to respond to what Donald said about refugees. He’s made these claims repeatedly. I am not going to let anyone into this country who is not vetted, who we do not have confidence in. But I am not going to slam the door on women and children. That picture of that little 4-year-old boy in Aleppo, with the blood coming down his
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