One of my Facebook friends, a guy closing in on Medicare eligibility:
I was almost 13, standing before my temple congregation, and I still remember reading these words from my Torah (bible) portion, “Choose life — if you and your offspring would live” It was somewhat random that of all the dates for me to be born and selected for my Bar Mitzvah, this would be my portion to read. If you know me, you know I don’t preach, I do think people should make their own choices. So these days, I can’t stop thinking about these words, and the choice we all make every day. Choose life over the alternative.
In other words, we can choose to stay home and save lives or go out and party (where, exactly?) and kill people via covidiocy.
In a previous post, I pointed out that, even if the Swedes are wrong and our quasi-lockdown has some effect on transmission rate, we can’t “save lives” by shutting down the U.S. economy because the resulting poverty will kill Americans (2011 NYT article) and kill poor people in trading partner countries, e.g., some of the hungry among the 200 million in Nigeria now that we’ve driven the price of oil below their production cost. The Earth can sustain a population of 8 billion only with a functioning modern economy of trade. If that weren’t necessary, the human population would have hit 8 billion before the birth of Jesus. The best that we can do is “save older richer American lives” by trading them for deaths among the poor. (But probably we won’t succeed in saving any rich old Americans.)
So we don’t have a choice to save lives, only, if the Swedes are wrong, whom to kill.
A physician friend said, “I agree with you on the poverty. That’s the biggest single determinant of clinical outcomes. However, you’re missing two big factors.” He pointed out that all clinical trials are currently shut down. If you were hoping to survive heart disease, diabetes, or cancer with the assistance of a new drug, you’d better come up with a way to survive an extra 6-24 months with the old pharmacopoeia. Any innovations will now be delayed by however long the coronapanic lasts.
He also directed me to “The Untold Toll — The Pandemic’s Effects on Patients without Covid-19” (Lisa Rosenbaum, M.D., New England Journal of Medicine, Apri 17). The author points out that a postponed “elective” treatment may result in death:
Although canceling procedures such as elective hernia repairs and knee replacements is relatively straightforward, for many interventions the line between urgent and nonurgent can be drawn only in retrospect. As Brian Kolski, director of the structural heart disease program at St. Joseph Hospital in Orange County, California, told me, “A lot of procedures deemed ‘elective’ are not necessarily elective.” Two patients in his practice whose transthoracic aortic valvular replacements were postponed, for example, died while waiting. “These patients can’t wait 2 months,” Kolski said. “Some of them can’t wait 2 weeks.” Rather than a broad moratorium on elective procedures, Kolski believes we need a more granular approach. “What has been the actual toll on some of these patients?” he asked.
[Note that NEJM makes this article available for free because it is COVID-19-related. Consistent with “Why do we care about COVID-19 deaths more than driving-related deaths?”, they want to make sure that all doctors worldwide have access to information that could save a COVID-19 patient, but they don’t care if a patient dies from some other preventable cause because the doc couldn’t afford a subscription!]
This death toll is in addition to deaths from patients who try to avoid going to the hospital in the first place because they’ve read that it will be a Fall of Saigon situation and they will get coronavirus during their 14 hours in the ED waiting room.
Finally, if you were hoping to be cured by a well-trained physician a few years from now, you might be disappointed to learn that all medical student clinical training has been suspended (and classroom training for years 1 and 2 has become a less effective virtual experience). It doesn’t matter to that our future doctors will miss 3-6 months of training? If so, why not cut medical school to 3.5 years?
Separately, but also on Facebook, there seems to be a rich vein of social distancing scolding. Here’s one from a nowhere-near-old-enough-to-be-at-risk guy who married the daughter of a rich guy and thus lives in a big beautiful custom-built home on a large suburban lot:
As of yesterday, 4.2% of Massachusetts residents who contracted Covid 19 died.
Today on my solo bike ride, I observed PACKED parks, with zero social distancing measures.
We can do better than this. I’m beyond ready to get back to work.
(He doesn’t have a W-2, 9-5 job, thanks to the father-in-law’s success, so “work” is creative, rather than oppressive.)
From a nurse in the Bay Area, regarding an outbreak in Truckee:
Wtf?!! What don’t people get? Stay the F* home!! Do not go to your 2nd or 3rd homes/ski leases!!! They don’t have the medical facilities/ICU capabilities for Bay Area people going back and forth and potentially spreading the virus!! All of us Bay Area/ SC/ Monterey 2nd homeowners are SIP at our PRIMARY homes… not escaping to our 2nd/3rd homes (Kirkwood) to “get away into the high altitude wilderness”. It’s ABSOLUTELY F**** selfish!!!!
Here’s one posted by a friend, in which the Seattle Parks & Rec folks tell the rabble “Enjoy Your Backyard”:
Nobody on either coast seems to be thinking about Americans who aren’t rich enough to have a backyard!
- “COVID-19 Is Likely to Lead to an Increase in Suicides” (Scientific American)
- Fun, even if the Swedes say it won’t make much difference: Sound of Music “Do Re Mi” remixed for Covid-19
- “‘Instead of Coronavirus, the Hunger Will Kill Us.’ A Global Food Crisis Looms.” (nytimes, April 22)
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Beach parking lots in Wellfleet were open yesterday. Just lighted DPW signs with a 6′ message. Maybe slightly more people than usual for a nice day this time of year. Except for a few people wearing masks all seemed normal. Except the line spacing at the French bakery was a hard pass, 6′ spacing and that line will soon extend to the bridges. Mask tan lines are going to look funny.
The weather supported stay at home order in California for the last few week. The temperature was below average, but it will go up to 90F by the end of this week. How they are going to keep people inside urban villages?
I have a family member whose testing for a urological condition which may be bladder cancer has been delayed until June. Blood in the urine, went for initial exam, doctor tried to get an upper urinary CT scan, the hospital scheduled (delayed) the scan until early June, and then if the scan shows negative/inconclusive he’ll need a urethral endoscopy to scan the lower urinary tract and bladder. So early detection has been pushed back two full months. These are relatively quick outpatient diagnostic procedures and we’re looking for alternatives.
Hopefully, and it’s a big “if” – if the hardest-hit states peak with COVID and realize they’re not going to be overrun they’ll start calling patients in.
If large numbers of people disobey the governors’ orders the governors will have to relent otherwise they will just look ridiculous and to quote Jack Woltz in the Godfather a man (or woman) in that position can’t afford to look ridiculous. People will presumably make those decisions when they don’t see sufficient evidence that the lock up orders are justified. In some states this seems to be happening already.
Americans work hard to keep the puritan spirit alive in all facets of public life. Never forget that the Unitarian Universalists are direct descendants of the Puritans. This Covid thing has kind of a Calvinist ring to it, does it not? I mean there’s an elect (those who will survive), plenty of preaching and scolding, but with a scientific basis.
This article claims that covid-19 causes people to destroy their own lungs because their oxygen levels drop but they don’t notice, and by the time they do they’ve damaged themselves.
I think he’s saying that if you test your O2 saturation and its low you can get oxygen or something which prevents you from causing more damage by breathing too fast or hard.
Seems like an easy diagnostic, if you’ve got a pulse oximeter, to check daily.
Not always that correct… But anyway: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8235979/UKs-coronavirus-crisis-peaked-lockdown-Expert-argues-draconian-measures-unnecessary.html
Oops… The Daily Mail link was mine.
If you’re under 70, it may not be an existential threat – it might only be debilitating (pulmonary fibrosis, myocarditis).
“SARS-CoV-2 is the Genbank name for the virus, because it is 96% identical in
nucleotide sequence to SARS-CoV, the cause of SARS in 2003.
– We will use this name because it is accurate and informative, revealing the high similarity
between these two pathogens. This name thus reminds us that we can infer a lot about
SARS-CoV-2 from existing data on SARS-CoV.”
“Long-term bone and lung consequences associated with hospital-acquired severe acute respiratory syndrome: a 15-year follow-up from a prospective cohort study”
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